<ng0>it is very obvious that the discussion about CoC vs GKCK has long arrived at the point of strawmen. could you just let the discussion die? there's no good coming out of this. discuss this offline, fossdem or whereever. this will continue moving in circles..
<roptat>but first I think you need to allow substitutes from it
<vaab>This forces me to build stuff, which is completely okay... apart that all builds fails on bzip2's tar gz from www.bzip.org website not having the expected sha256 ... same question... is that a known issue or did I do something wrong ?
<pkill9>does it use the same authorization key as the main server/berlin?
<vaab>@Laalf: I'm telling you, I don't know guix, but I compile python often by hand (and guix is suppose to follow the same path than I do... download source code, use auto-tools configure, make) and I can tell you that it should not take 24GB. If guix can't do it, this means something is probably going very wrong. Again, I might say enormities as I'm a
<Laalf>there are no libre compatible pcie graphics cards that arent very old or old and nouveau
<Laalf>roptat: is there a good way to download everything you have from your pc?
<Laalf>its trying to "building /gnu/store/fa7r64a4b82j21r7zls5wsxs9gmlkbgk-Python-3.6.5.tar.xz.drv..." which makes no sense since guix build python gives /gnu/store/0yh3i4ad43k0nr0xc63jwwz67md356a6-python-3.6.5 and /gnu/store/1y3b22r7yhwvmlndn3vxkqvrcm20ihwm-python-3.6.5-tk
<roptat>maybe there are other packages with this source?
<roptat>or it's trying to build the ungrafted version
<Laalf>it would be nice if system reconfigure would tell me what it needs
<Laalf>when i look at python i will probably need a server with a few more gb of ram
<g_bor>Moreover, these pathces are modififying a lot of different files, in different places, and after the source tree is assembled from these repos all over, so it seems a bit complicated.
<g_bor>However icedtea already has a 'patch-patches build phase :) that seems like to place to add this stuff...
<nckx>Laalf: I managed to completely wear out an SSD in ~8 months running a build server on it. Maybe it was bad, maybe I misconfigured something (I did use fstrim & overprovisioned), but still, all my build farm rust now sweetly spins.
<g_bor>I could not do much unfortunately these days, I was busy tring to recover my system from something, that I still don't know was what...
<g_bor>All user profile stuff seemd to be gc-d, moreover not failing immeditately...
<Laalf>nckx: i live in germany. my internet wouldnt be ok for a server like this. i would rent one.
<Laalf>i am very happy with my purchase of my w530. 24gb ram is nice. but that damn wifi whitelist
<pkill9>you can flash a patched BIOS to get rid of the wifi whitelist can't you? or flash coreboot - although i dunno if you need to do a hardware modification
<Laalf>pkill9: i can "just" flash a patched bios. via hardware. and i cannot patch it
<Laalf>coreboot isnt available and idk about the nvidia card in there...
<roptat>g_bor: diffoscope failed on core-updates here too
<Laalf>you need to desolder the chip as well. which is more of a pain than i want. if i get someone to patch it (maybe even 0x194?) i might do it. but its easier just to accept that intel listens through the ME anyways, so they can listen via closed wifi firmware as well
<g_bor>roptat: ok, I will have a closer look tomorrow.
<g_bor>:) I will have some sleep now, lookaing at these progress indicators spinning is not especially enlightening :)
<vaab>Reading the general options, and especially the ``--fallback`` option, it is still not clear for me how to prevent local build whatever happens. I'm in cases I just want everything to come through substitutes servers or fail. I'll provide substitute servers that will have everything available.
<vaab>Reading the doc: "Note that when substitutes are disabled or no substitute is available for the derivation in question, a local build will always be performed, regardless of whether or not --fallback was given. " Which is not what I'm aiming at. I'd like to simply fail if no substitute are available.