<snape>!!! HN's #1 and #2 are anti-Chrome article :)
<jonsger>I don't see any reason to use Chromium/Chrome instead of Firefox. Even if you "ungoogling" it
<Sleep_Walker>jonsger: some sites quickly stop responding (typically huge pages or JS page with dynamic content), that's why I use Chromium a lot even though I always prefered Firefox/Icecat and Conkeror
<jonsger>oke. Can't really confirm this, maybe because I use uBlock and NoScript to get rid of this bloat...
<rekado>I need to reboot berlin.guixsd.org today. Hardware upgrades.
<rekado>I’ll also use this chance to try relocating /gnu/store.
<g_bor>not working was the same, except use-package-modules missed databases and geo
<ng0>is it correct that #:select ((package-name->name+version . hyphen-separated-name->name+version)) selects package-name->name+version and uses it as hypen-separated-name->name+version in the module loading it? some parts of the guile documentation are hard to search
<roptat>g_bor: do you mean that it didn't fail with "unbound variable postgis"?
<g_bor>roptat: I will take another look, but it seems that is correct
<jlicht>the (github hosted?) elogind project lists #guix as the place to chat about it. It that still correct?
<g_bor>roptat: checked, it does not fail for me with unbound variable.
<lfam>I'm on Debian, with both root and my user at commit 88600acc939365b4f. The daemon is 0.15.0-3.3d43017 (from root's Guix package). When I try to update with `guix pull` to any later commit, it crashes like this: https://paste.debian.net/1043915/
<lfam>The change in the next commit after 88600acc939365b4f is c122a2e509df98c4 (serialization: Remove redundancy in 'write-file'.), which looks like a really simple change to me
<ng0>does anyone know how third_party/rust/miniz_oxide_c_api/tests/miniz_tester.cpp is used in the build of icecat? If we do not patch out __DATE__ __TIME__ in the else block ( printf("miniz.c x86 Command Line Test App - Compiled %s %s\n", __DATE__, __TIME__); ) this means we are still getting our chroot date+time right.
<ng0>why would an git-download throw errors? Initialized empty Git repository in /gnu/store/pjlph3zi871fsgngp7grjnccasr54pj3-emacs-nim-mode-0.4.2-2.d56b77a-checkout/.git/ .... fatal: cannot run ssh: No such file or directory .... fatal: unable to fork .... fatal: cannot run ssh: No such file or directory .... fatal: unable to fork ..... (.... is new line) looking familiar to anyone?
<ng0>i have run git source builds in the last 60 minutes which did not produce this
<jlicht>ng0: maybe something interesting shows up in the `dmesg` output?
*rekado gives up and boots an older system on berlin.guixsd.org
<ng0>does anyone know where melpa keeps the version numbers it builds from? I need to map what looks like a build date on melpa + revision to a git commit. by date and numbers it is not occuring in the git
<ng0>nckx: the good luck i actually more of a "hope my prof in C is a decent human being and I don't have to sue him for past business relationship (which, due to their company basically being an we '"like" OSS' sweatshop, didn't end like they wanted it to) reflecting in any regard on the result of the exam"
<ng0>so it will be luck :) because often people are not capable to be neutral and separate workplace stuff.
<nckx>...wow. Now that's a complicating factor. o_o
<ng0>ah, when i wrote "OSS sweatshop": to call it open source was borderline. technically what I did was closed source + open source in the liberal sense.
<divansantana>I find the new icecat can't render github.com for me properly. I've even disabled all the extensions. Is this the case for others too? Surely must be. I've started a fresh icecat instance and this occurs as well.
<divansantana>Finding a decent browser is really hard nowadays. :( Looking forward to next browser being packaged.
<ng0>do we have a bug for Palemoon/Newmoon/New Moon? I maintain it outside of guix and will finish the package, but it is not worth getting properly supported as the browser is now in maintainenance mode, soon to be obsoleted by a new engine+browser
<ng0>I don't really trust in the work the team does around this browser and I have doubts about communicating with them after what I've experienced with openbsd.
<ng0>my one email with upstream was okay'ish because i asked the right thing only
<divansantana>bavier`: thanks for the effort. It will be a great addition to get that in guix.
<ng0>could someone close the corresponding ticket if it exists? I'm busy with pen and paper right now
<ng0>unless you really want New Moon at some point, but for me it's just something I want to finish because I started it.
<divansantana>lfam_: That looks exactly it. I need to get debbugs going in emacs and start checking the bugs.
<lfam_>divansantana: In the meantime I can recommend the Epiphany browser
<divansantana>lfam_: Cool. I'll Use that but will miss all the vimperator like look+bindings. Will see if there is anything similar for it, but suspect not.
<divansantana>Maybe chromium with an extension. Not ideal. But at least the guix chromium is well packaged in terms of privacy/security.
<lfam_>Yeah, that's another good option. But it may take a while to build (unless there is a substitute server) while Epiphany should be available now
<pkill9>i currently use nix's chromium with a wrapper, until it's in guix
<nckx>ng0: 'free-as-in-gimme-free-stuff'. Got it. ;-)
<nckx>lfam_: Wait. Are you implying I... over-think things? I think so! ...on the other hand, maybe you're not? ... Although maybe...
<rekado>re browsers: Eolie and Epiphany are decent browsers.
<nckx>re browsers: Should I refrain from updating Icecat to 60 on GuixSD for now?
*rekado looks forward to merging the wip-gnome-updates branch
<divansantana>Turns out what I'm after is a good privacy/security browser+keyboard driven+customisable. Seems icecat with an extension may be best once that bug is fixed. Qutebrowser is good for me too. Will maybe run in via my arch vm. Later next browser perhaps.