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<nckx>sneek: later tell sneek_: later tell sneek: later tell _sneek: my brain hurts. <nckx>sneek: no botsnack for you. <Apteryx>I'd like to read its regexp manual offline. <efraim>mbakke: make and glibc built with your patches <Trecila>I first hit an error saying $HOME/.guix-profile/etc/profile: No such file or directory. So I created one and tried the installation script again <Trecila>Now I get error "A previous Guix installation was found. Refusing to overwrite." <efraim>Did you run the script as root? (And not with sudo) <efraim>I tried the rust update on aarch64, ran into a cmake&-native issue <efraim>Trecila: did you get it up and working? <bavier`>it seems weird that the process of creating a new profile requires a different glibc than the one used to build the packages that go into the profile <efraim>Tell rekado, I'm sure he'd love to continue banging his head against glibc :P <bavier`>jlicht: I think some others have come here in the last days with a similar problem <bavier`>jlicht: the advice was to move ~/.config/guix/latest out of the way and try again <jlicht>bavier`: I tried that already :/. I also tried building guix from source, and then doing `./pre-inst-env guix pull' icw the guix/latest removal thing, but still this error stays the same <jlicht>for now, I am able to use guix from a git checkout, but it would be nice to use guix pull again some time in the future :-) <jlicht>And trying to build from the checkout leads to problems loading the build-aux/guix.scm environment file <nckx>sneek: What are you, anyway? <nckx>Sneek has already forgot. <lfam>jlicht: I'm curious which armhf board you're using? <efraim>Some things sneek doesn't forget <sneek>I could be wrong, but the cake is a lie <lfam>sneek should get larget when you feed them a botsnack <jlicht> lfam: I think it is a Asus tinkerboard running armbian <lfam>It's the Rockchip RK3288 (armhf) <jlicht>thing is, `guix pull' used to work properly from about ~5 weeks ago till last week (after I had found a proper power supply at least) <jlicht>and I already `guix gc'd older stuff, so I can't rollback easily to test :/ <lfam>jlicht: I think the channel is stumped, please file a bug report :) <jlicht>lfam: also, was that a MG reference with the sneeeek? <lfam>I was thinking about the video game 'snake' <jlicht>Metal gear, with a character referred to as Snake. <nckx>sneek: what is your licence? <nckx>sneek: what is your quest? <nckx>DDG knows nothing about Sneek either. <nckx>Most mysterious bot I've ever encountered. <nckx>sneek: you _are_ a bot, right? <lfam>I think people in #guile know about sneek <lfam>IIRC it's running bobot++ <nckx>OrangeShark: I wasn't _really_ suggesting Ludo' kept a small underfed child under their desk to answer IRC questions. Or at least you can't prove it. <nckx>That did not turn up in my searchin's. <lfam>I searched for "sneek bobot" <nckx>Ahah. I'd never heard of it. I was just wondering why sneek wasn't in Guix. <nckx>I'm guessing good ol' code shame. <nckx>sneek: AGPL all the things! <thomassgn>Hey, wanted to sorry for the ugly patch I sent yesterday... will read the guidelines on contributing and try to follow more closely forward. <chewzerita>Does anyone know how to fix wireshark permission problems on GuixSD? <PotentialUser-14>I am consider using Guix as my OS , but first I need to know, will support my Graphics Card which requires non-free firmware? <bavier`>PotentialUser-14: it depends what your graphics card is <bavier`>PotentialUser-14: do other FSDG OS's work with your hardware? <bavier`>PotentialUser-14: if it worked out-of-the box with debian, I think you'd be fine with GuixSD <PotentialUser-14>not perfectly I had to enable the nonfree repo to get it to work optimally <kmicu>Hi PotentialUser-14: you would need to configure that on your own. There is no support for nonfree firmware in GuixSD (Linux-libre kernel). <bavier`>PotentialUser-14: it's possible to supply the firmware/packages yourself for a GuixSD configuration <bavier`>I'm not very familiar with graphics hardware, but I thought I heard AMD has free-software-friendly gpus? <kmicu>PotentialUser-14: What is your card now? <kmicu>Are you sure that requires nonfree firmware in Debian? Or are you fighting for +10FPS? <kmicu>AMD open drivers should be as fast as proprietary. (The situation is different with NVidia.) <kmicu>Anyway, yes, iirc, you need to compile Linux-libre kernel to accept blobs. <kmicu>You could also switch to regular Linux kernel and put blobs in usual place. There are examples for that on popular code repos. <kmicu>(Or use NixOS if you want to avoid compiling stuff and maintaining your patches.) <davexunit>rekado: is there an image around anywhere of a guixsd grub boot screen showing the old generations of a system? want to show it in a presentation and don't know how to take a screenshot of it myself <jlicht>davexunit: it took me reading your message four times before I realised you are talking about a graphical image XD <nckx>Surely there must be one on the home page... nope. <nckx>I'd add it if I could QEMU. It's a far better illustration of what makes GuixSD special than... that SLIM log-in screen for example. <nckx>Which will not fill with joy the heart of anyone who's ever had to configure SLIM. <vagrantc>anyone interested in working on a riscv64 port for guix? the sifive folks might be willing to give a board to a guix developer <vagrantc>the core toolchain is upstreamed, the linux kernel is getting there, and qemu will soon have support for it <nckx>vagrantc: How soon, approximately, is ‘soon’? <nckx>ACTION is seriously kinda tempted... <vagrantc>nckx: kernel has core support in 4.15, and other drivers expected 4.16/4.17 .. qemu has basic support in 2.12.0-rc0, with some important bugfixes coming <nckx>OK, a (somewhat) working -rc was about what I was hoping for :-) <vagrantc>they already gave a board to a debian developer, but i figured i'd suggest guix as another natural project that might be interested <nckx>vagrantc: I'm definitely interested in anything RISC-V. It would be my first porting attempt, so not sure if I qualify. <nckx>(Those 10 minutes were me debating whether or not to jump :-) <vagrantc>nckx: well, you could ask around in #riscv <nckx>About a board? Or for general support? <vagrantc>nckx: i think palmer would be the one to ask about a board <vagrantc>ACTION doesn't quite know what official status it takes to be a guix developer <jonsger[m]>riscv seems to really gain momentum :) opensuse started some weeks ago with riscv... <nckx>ACTION is definitely no efraim. <vagrantc>arguably the native boards are only as fast as qemu on a reasonably fast x86 machine (core-i7) <nckx>jonsger[m]: Sure. I'd only be interested in that if there was real hardware coming the project's way as well, though. <nckx>ACTION has an i5-6402P that could probably do the job. <jonsger[m]>nckx: or maybe an AMD Ryzen 1800x for 285 Euro :P <nckx>jonsger[m]: bbbut amdflaws.tk <nckx>If anyone wants to give me 285 or indeed any amount of EUR I am also all ears. <nckx>...I have actually dreamt that I bought one of those. <nckx>It was a pleasant dream. <nckx>Possibly because it implied I had moneys.