<Apteryx>I'm not very good at network questions unfortunately. Is there something different in the way Guix (or guile) does DNS compared to ping? I would think they would use the same underlying libraries.
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: You probably don't have it installed, but you could try: nslookup mirror.hydra.gnu.org
<CharlieBrown>Apteryx: And remember, IRC works. (I'm on it right here.)
<Apteryx>To have that utility you need to install `bind'
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: What do you mean? You can continue using the packages you've installed so far, and they won't be lost from using guix from git. It's just the guix executable and the 'snapshot' of packages recipes which changes (it would affect you if you ran 'guix package -u' since the packgaes would be newer than your current guix version).
<CharlieBrown>...that's what I mean. At some point, using git will clash.
<CharlieBrown>I didn't remember why, but someone said using one or the other will break something at some point.
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: Well, it will not clash any differently than if you'd run 'guix pull'. Guix pull downloads a guix archive that corresponds to the newest state of the master branch.
<CharlieBrown>(This is starting to sound like when the FreeBSD people say "Don't mix ports and binaries! You'll break your system!" "No! I mix ports and binaries all the time! It's OK!"
<Apteryx>It's just less efficient than doing 'git pull' ;)
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: You want to read: info '(guix)Building from Git'
<Apteryx>And the next chapter, especially the "footnote" which explains how to "set up ‘guix’ to use your Git checkout".
<az`>CharlieBrown: In Gentoo and Arch - it's ok, and guix is made for that I think
<az`>CharlieBrown: good part is that you can test edge cases :)
<Apteryx>It's the git URL of the repo, served over https.
<DoublePlusGood23>rekado_ , ng0 I made a patch here http://sprunge.us/JXcB it seems to pass all the tests build wise and lint wise. Haven't done any sprucing up yet as I do need to sleep, if you could point out flaws with it, that would be great,
<Apteryx>OK. That's annoying. I wonder why it's happenning (the ping failures). The site is totally unnaccessible from IceCat?
<CharlieBrown>Apteryx: I don't have a graphical interface on any computer right now. (I only have this computer.)
<CharlieBrown>Apteryx: I'm just saying that a lot of Google Docs links go to a web app, and I don't run web apps because they are nonfree software.
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: Right. I think my link might fall in this trap. I just hadn't realized before (or maybe it worked better with Dropbox).
<CharlieBrown>Apteryx: Dropbox has given me issues, too, but there may be a way to have a **raw** link.
<rekado>CharlieBrown: are you using i686 or x86_64?
<Apteryx>CharlieBrown: one last idea; do you still have the installation medium somewhere? There should be a working git there... Might be tricky to mount the filesystem though, I have no idea how that image is organized.
<CharlieBrown>What the... now that I record it, guix pull actually works. Why...
<rekado>DoublePlusGood23: you don’t need to delete the build, check and strip phases. To disable tests just add “#:tests? #f” to the arguments. Best with a comment that explains why.
<CharlieBrown>I couldn't even package MCWM, and en-jee-oh got mad at me because I hate myself so much for my incompetence.
<buenouanq>rekado: with gnome running, blanking settings would not take effect. even after installing xset and explcitly changing (and as far as I could tell with like, xset q they were how they needed to be), gnome was still shutting off my second monitor every 6 minutes (or whatever the default is)
<efraim>I commented out most of the default kernel modules for aarch64, now I have to make it pass '-machine virt' to qemu-minimal for actually building the image
<civodul>we need something that is i18n'd (slim isn't)
<civodul>efraim: if we had a working linux-libre package for aarch64, we could maybe use a GuixSD VM as a build machine?
<rekado>I have a lightdm package with broken tests
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<brendyn>civodul: I need two features in a login manager. The ability to change keyboard layout, and the ability to change language. I haven't seen a distro that has these basic features yet. last time I tested Ubuntu and Kubuntu they didn't have both
<joshuaBPMan_>hmmm. I just read an email where Chris Webber talked about getting certbox set up with nginx. He had he had to reconfigure 3 times. I don't know how he has time for that. That would take my machine 2-3 days to do. Not because my machine is slow, but because I normally need my machine to do stuff. I can't have it sitting around reconfiguring all the time.
<bavier>joshuaBPMan_: a reconfigure may not always require packages to be built or substitutes to be fetched.
<bavier>joshuaBPMan_: e.g. changing a service configuration, add/changing a user, etc
<joshuaBPMan_>wait a reconfigure can be told only to change the service configuration? What!?