<paroneayea>rekado: pretty sure it's the server, though guix itself could certainly reply better to it <paroneayea>I rolled back both my system and my local git checkout to a while ago and was still having the same problems <paroneayea>so any bug in guix has been there for a long time, and it's definitly whatever code we've had + the state of hydra as it is now <brendyn>How do I specify --fallback from within ,run-in-store (build-package ...) ? <u0_a253>Do I need to specify my /boot partition or something <janneke>u0_a253: did you set the label of your root partition to `my-root'? <janneke>u0_a253: have you any idea if there's information scrolled off the screen about what caused the panic? <u0_a253>janneke: Maybe there is, but you can't scroll up during a panic afaik. I could record it I guess. <u0_a253>Also, "John" is an invalid username apparently. I wish guix warned me of that. <u0_a253>I could maybe get it to work by using a proper user name, and making sure mtab is good. <u0_a253>An invalid username shouldn't cause a kernel panic though should it? <u0_a253>Ugh, after changing a small detail in the configuration guix is downloading and installing *everything* again. <u0_a253>It ran out of space when I ran guix init this time. Weird. <amz3`>I am not sure it will work since my system is not guixsd <amz3`>I tried the first example nine-patch.scm it failed <amz3`>I tried to re-enter the environment, and now it compiles a bunch of stuff again... <amz3`>except it already should have compiled everything the first time <amz3`>meh... now it compiles libtool <amz3`>while true; do guix environment -l guix.scm done; <amz3`>so I got chickadee running using the following incantation: LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib/nvidia-375" ../pre-inst-env guile lines.scm <amz3`>where nvidia-375 is the used nvidia driver <amz3`>now I can go sleep peacefully <amz3`>for the record, here is the error i get while running chickadee without the LD_LIBRARY_PATH magic <amz3`>libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found <amz3`>libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast <serieux>guix package: error: build failed: build of /gnu/store/*-profile.drv failed <Apteryx>u0_a253: You are not using encrypted partitions? IIRC mtab is used at boot to know about the encrypted partitions that should be mounted or something like that. <Apteryx>Do we have metrics on the amount of bandwith used by mirror.hydra.gnu.org? <Petter>Anyone else having problems wit CPAN mirrors? One of them seemed to hang forever during guix build. <Petter>To this form: (uri (string-append "mirror://cpan/authors/id/M/MA/MATEU/MooX-Types-MooseLike-" version ".tar.gz")) <Petter>Hm, walked the tree of one of the mirrors and found it. ***methalo is now known as methalo_
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<drtan>Hi! I am trying to install Guix SD in a virtual machine and I can see a strange thing. My partition layout by default contains a 'gnu-system-image' partition. Now I am confused should I leave this and it should be part of an installed system later on. <drtan>Sorry, 'gnu-disk-image' is the name. <Petter>I think this is the default label. <drtan>Well, I assumed I can layout the partitions from scratch, yet I cannot format /dev/sda1 as it contains the filesystem and is in use. <Petter>Have you cd'ed into /dev/sda1 perhaps? <drtan>I guess that Guix SD needs this partition to run the installer image. <drtan>I am at /root as my working directory while trying to format. <Petter>What is your installer mounted as? <Petter>Not sure if it's available in the installer. <drtan>The 'lsblk' output doesn't list any mountpoints. <drtan>I can see sda and two partitions I've created. <Petter>I don't know, I've never installed in a virtual machine :/ <Petter>Maybe someone else can help you. <drtan>Maybe I'll try to append my partitions as sda2 and sda3 and see what will happen. <Petter>I'd say go for it. Just make sure you're not messing up your real system. <drtan>Thank you. I'll look into what's there. <Petter>These are the two occurrences of 'gnu-disk-image' grep could find. <paroneayea>wingo: I ran into some workflow issues but I'll document them after I shower. happy to have it going though! <drtan>Petter: I know what I've done. My bad. I mounted the installation image as a single device to my virtual machine to begin with. <drtan>There is no ISO, so I just renamed the image to be .img file and mounted. <grillon_>is there someone who has uefi activated? <buenouanq>I am \\emph{very} interested in that question as well. <buenouanq>I have tried to install GuixSD on a Macbook, and was never able to get it to boot. <grillon_>janneke: does your answer and Petter link mean it's quite difficult to do? <grillon_>sometimes I cannot see any advantage of efi <Petter>Seems like it's almost there then. (I didn't know it had been removed.) <buenouanq>Through the whole thing, a couple different times - On boot it would just give me a blinking question mark. <lfam>The mirror never seems to have i686-linux substitutes. Even coreutils is not cached :/ <buenouanq>I'm leaving on a trip, and systemdebian has stopped playing nice on that machine, I need something I can rely on. <buenouanq>And while we're on the subject of different architectures, what is the status of GuixSD and ARM? The EOMA68s are now set to ship in July - I really want to be able to put GuixSD on one. <Petter>Hopefully powerful enough for normal use. <grillon_>I could plug it in any laptop with pcmcia and boot on it? or I need the special pc housing? <buenouanq>the laptop would be expecting it to be a drive or something and isn't set up for that unfortunately <buenouanq>but upon acquiring said special housing, all future EOMA68s would be compatible <mbuf>is there a concept of a meta-package in GNU Guix? if we install that, it should install all the packages listed in it. <efraim>See xfce or GNOME for an example <grillon_>buenouanq: ok I regret that because I have a laptop of 17" gigaEth but a celeron as processor so absolutely unusable... <mbuf>efraim, buenouanq thanks! <buenouanq>grillon_: maybe you can take it apart and make it compatible with the EOMA68 - hack the planet! <efraim>I found an ssd makes just about any computer useable <mbuf>Is it possible to create a meta-package from list of packages in another meta-package? <buenouanq>that would be a really interesting thing to do and I'm sure you'd find some interest from people in the same boat. <mbuf>the context is that if I want a custom set of packages alone installed in an instance <thekyriarchy_>mark_weaver: hey, any interest in briding this channel with a matrix room? <Petter>thekyriarchy_: Mark isn't active here on IRC anymore. <janneke>trying to install via usb from master i get: "gnu/build/svg.scm" could not be found <janneke>trying to revert `960887b29 build: Stop building gnu/build/svg.scm.' and see what happens <paroneayea>damn, wish we could make --localstatedir=/var the default for configure <paroneayea>janneke: I think it's a gnu standards reason that it points elsewhere <paroneayea>but it's dumb because iirc there's no other reason <paroneayea>having gnu standards is great, but when they don't make sense... <paroneayea>like, in general that path standard makes sense, but we should have an exception here <janneke>snape, i'm trying exwm and very much like the idea but i'm kinda stuck <janneke>can you help me figure out how to start and manage an X program (icecat, conkeror) in exwm? <janneke>whatever i do, they keep floating above emacs <snape>hi janneke, did you start exwm with the script provided by the package (exwm), and put (exwm-enable) in your emacs conf file? <janneke>snape: no...put those commands in .xsession and in emacs conf: (require 'exwm) (require 'exwm-config) (exwm-config-default) <snape>maybe :) I'm not sure the latter, but starting with the script is necessary <janneke>snape: but if you simply start, say conkeror& in a shell, then it appears in an emacs buffer? <Apteryx>I'm still getting "no route to host" errors with mirror.hydra... Am I the only one? <snape>janneke: yes, and if you want to switch to, say, Xterm, you do: C-x b 'Xterm'. <janneke>snape: okay...yes I hoped for something like that <snape>me too :) and ofc you can rename buffers <snape>there is a config to write so that the buffer name is the classe name... it's on the wiki <janneke>ACTION goes to install xinit and do exactly as exwm says <snape>janneke: no... if you use GuixSD, it's fine to put 'exec exwm' in your .xsession <snape>no need to use xinit. And actually I'm unsure GuixSD supports xinit <janneke>snape: YES! it works... exec exwm in my .xsession <snape>do not hesitate if you have other questions, I already spent a few hours improving my exwm config :) <janneke>snape: great...have you looked at the exwm-x extension? <snape>no, but I've seen an email about it <janneke>i really like the `run-or-raise' function in stumpwm, had something like that in sawfish too <janneke> "Run a browser instance or if already running, switch to it." <janneke> (run-or-raise "conkeror" '(:class "Conkeror"))) <janneke>which then always gives me my browser <janneke>i'm looking for something like that :-) <janneke>should be real easy with exwm, i figure -- there's no info docs right? <snape>I don't think there is an info doc <janneke>snape: is your exwm config online? what kind of things did you add? <snape>janneke: it's not, because it <snape>when I find a solution to expose it, I'll put it online <snape>(gitolite doesn't allow public access, as far as I know) <janneke>i'm reading the default config...trying to make sense of workspaces, simulation keys... <snape>but I can still give you my conf :) <rekado>ACTION waits for janneke’s report first ) <snape>janneke: for example, I added something that synchronize Xterm and default-directory, which I find very useful <snape>I mean, when I 'cd' into xterm, it changes the buffer-local default-directory <snape>since Xterm is in an emacs buffer, it works <janneke>rekado: okay, i'll be sure to mention how it's going for me <snape>do we have git-service working with Guix? <janneke>i'm not much of an xterm user, but a good friend of my is and he's waiting for my report on exwm too :-) <snape>I prefer eshell and shell too, but sometimes I have no choice... <Apteryx>How can I get rid of: guix substitute: error: connect: No route to host. I tried "sudo herd restart networking" but that didn't seem to help. <rekado>I use a real terminal only when I have to use screen. <Apteryx>rekado: What do you mean by "real terminal"? <rekado>I have a broken command here for attaching to a remote dtach session, but I’d like to also have buffer playback, which dtach doesn’t support. <Apteryx>xterm is pretty full fledged (but I admit it doesn't look like it if you've only tried it for a short while) <snape>rekado, yes, screen, and things (like builds) with very long outputs that would otherwise memory overflow emacs... <rekado>dtach is simple, so maybe it wouldn’t be too hard to extend it <rekado>snape: I have configured emacs to truncate long lines <rekado>Emacs has frozen too often because of long lines… <snape>oh really? would it be because of long lines? good to know <Apteryx>Yeah, emacs seems to be optimized for a lot of lines rather than too long lines. <Apteryx>It stutters for me too when it encounters very long lines. <janneke>rekado: `I have configured emacs to truncate long lines' -- I want that! <janneke>Mes has frozen my emacs too often, attempting to display circular lists and stuff <paroneayea>rekado: it's so close to being something I want to use but there's a big missing feature from it <paroneayea>it doesn't convey information about when resizing happens <snape>I didn't need that to run vim inside emacs :) (evil-mode) <paroneayea>snape: but one does need a way to run roguelikes :0 <snape>paroneayea: could you explain why is it a Big missing feature? <snape>I mean, I didn't understand well what it should do when resizing happens <paroneayea>so, try opening a terminal and running vim or emacs inside it, or a roguelike, or anything else "curses" like <paroneayea>the information is conveyed so that the curses-type-foo can adapt <paroneayea>in ansi-term, if you start out an ansi-term in maybe a fullscreen "window" (using emacs' definition of window) <paroneayea>suddenly whatever was running inside the ansi-term will wrap really awfully at the corner <paroneayea>it doesn't send the information so it just exceeds the bounds of the current size <CharlieBrown>paroneayea: In my experience, it would resize once you update anything on the screen. For example, I would connect to my tmux session and to C-b n C-b p to refresh. <paroneayea>wow I guess you can use ansi-term for everything now :D <paroneayea>nothing like complaining about a missing feature to prove yourself wrong :D <CharlieBrown>paroneayea: I still find it clunky. Ever tried running cmatrix in it? Not fun. <CharlieBrown>Huh. Never looked at that. I just know that it didn't run smoothly. <paroneayea>CharlieBrown: running emacs in emacs and running M-x tetris seems fine tho <CharlieBrown>paroneayea: Are you on the X200? I don't consider it old. <CharlieBrown>I usu. expect everyone to be running these old things, because it's Libertyland. <CharlieBrown>I feel like I need a book as big as the Bible to learn Blender. <paroneayea>it's about as much work as learning to program, but so is learning any 3d artwork stuff <rekado>paroneayea: I also miss Blender! <rekado>I also had just gotten started with graphics programming right before I got the X200 <paroneayea>well I also miss working on game programming stuff :) <paroneayea>the next time I get a machine it may actually be one of the new Purism machines, I'm nearly surprised to say <paroneayea>they goofed things up on the first iterations but now are heading in the right direction <paroneayea>their work to render Intel ME inert is pretty great for instance <paroneayea>plus they hired Nekohayo to interface with the FOSS community... a smart move <janneke>snape: so what's the workspaces feature about, i do not really understand it with a tiling wm like emacs? don't you/can't you just switch buffers to whatever you want to see? <snape>janneke: I don't use it. But I think it's kind of a multi-frames emacs. <janneke>hmm...still "gnu/build/svg.scm" could not be found <snape>you could have a split setup on workspace 1 with your emails, and something fullscreen on workspace 2 e.g. <janneke>snape: ah yes, emails--i was wondering if and how you run Gnus with exwm <snape>but my workflow about it didn't change <janneke>ACTION tries againg with adding svg.scm manually to the stick <Gamayun>Hm... I'm tempted to try out exwm as well. <paroneayea>I'm documenting my experience getting up the certbot stuff <paroneayea>should I reply to the certbot thread on guix-patches <paroneayea>I'm anticipating the former but I'm a bit unsure. <Petter>Gaaah... Perl dependencies - do they ever run out!? x_x <kyamashita>Is exwm what all the cool kids are using these days? <janneke>kyamashita: no idea...but it looks awesome until now <snape>paroneayea: maybe that would be easier to follow if you answer the certbot thread? <rekado>How can I install a cross compiler for Windows? <rekado>I have a binary I’d like to build for Windows for testing purposes <rekado>I did that, I guess I just don’t know how to use it :) <rekado>because that package doesn’t provide any binaries <rekado>maybe I just need to install gcc-toolchain and then set the target <janneke>rekado: easiest is to create a package spec and say --target= <janneke>like in: guix build --target=i686-w64-mingw32 hello <efraim>ok, I don't know when it happened or how, but I have a gccgo-5.4.0/bin/go in my store on aarch64 <kyamashita>janneke & rekado: I can also see /gnu/store/...-gcc-cross-sans-libc-i686-w64-mingw32-5.4.0/bin/i686-w64-mingw32-gcc in my store as some sort of dependency of mingw-w64. <kyamashita>I don't know how to invoke *just* that package though. <kyamashita>The compiler seems to require the static libs in the mingw-w64 package... <rekado>I just pushed a potential fix for glibc on i686 <rekado>the patch is applied conditionally, so it should not cause a rebuild of glibc on other architectures <rekado>just in case something went wrong and it did cause a rebuild: please let me know 
