<jmd>How does one mark an item in debbugs as "resolved" ? <Apteryx>By curiosity; are the gnu.org email alias (forwards) distributed by FSF/GNU as honor badges? Or how does it work? <Apteryx>rekado: After some experimenting, it seems the Deja Vu family works best for me in IceCat with the skia backend. Skia made the otherwise beautiful hack font (monospace) barely readable. <Apteryx>Would still be nice to fix the cairo backend. Do we have a bug tracking that? <clacke[m]>Is there some kernel module I should load? My kernel version is recent enough, 4.x. It's a Debian machine. <clacke[m]>I've tried pulling an old snapshot, tried using 0.11.0-whatever guix-daemon as well as dowloaded and used the binary 0.12.0. <ng0>something is really strange about master since yesterday.. I think I'll switch to git <ng0>the server ran pull for 8 hours <ng0>and wasn't finished, restarted 'guix pull' just now <ng0>looks about the same <efraim>not too too relevant, but nss-3.27.1 failed first attempt on aarch64 <sneek>Welcome back civodul, you have 1 message. <sneek>civodul, wingo says: you don't get huge pages unless you ask for them, so i think there is no problem <civodul>i think we can't expect that to work <efraim>i'll submit a bug, we also have arm and i686 trying to build for aarch64 <wingo>i wonder how possible it would be to get a guile 2.2.0 binary install available with guix for new users that don't have guix, on the release day <civodul>it would be possible, similar to the binary tarball of Guix <wingo>would be nice if we could have a specially-generated tarball that let people just download one thing and it works <wingo>would be a good guix gateway drug too :) <civodul>artyom-poptsov: what are your plans regarding updating guile-ssh to 2.2? <rekado>civodul: Bobkonf was good! There were not so many people in the room, though. I guess the alternative sessions had more attractive titles :) <rekado>civodul: in about two weeks the video might be published <civodul>did you have interesting questions or feedback? <rekado>I had more time than I thought I would, so I answered the question about Guix vs Nix first. <artyom-poptsov>civodul: First of all, I think I need to migrate to Guile 2.2 myself to test Guile-SSH with that version; I'm still using Guile 2.0.14 on my Gentoo box. <rekado>other questions were about security updates, continuous integration, “do I need to learn a lot of Scheme to package things?”, etc <rekado>feedback was very positive throughout <rekado>many people said they used Nix before but would prefer to do things with Scheme <civodul>these are questions we have pretty good answers for i guess ;-) <artyom-poptsov>civodul: I hadn't enough time to hack on Guile-SSH last two month, but I'm hoping to make a new release as soon as I sort out some tasks at my day work. <roelj>Can I import stuff from 'guix archive --export ...' to a specific profile? <rekado>roelj: but you can export a complete profile. <roelj>rekado: Yes.. so, I wanted to export a profile from one machine and import it on another machine, but then put it in a new profile (not in the user's current profile). <rekado>roelj: if you import store items they’ll appear in the store. <rekado>roelj: if the store item includes a profile, then you already have a separate profile that includes the store items. <rekado>roelj: you’d still need to add a link to that new profile in the store to make it conveniently accessible. <roelj>rekado: Ah, so it would be pretty straightforward for 'guix archive' to have a --profile option to add that link.. Another thing on my to-do list. <civodul>wingo: the "hygienic" macro-introduced top-level identifier thing breaks (gnu services configuration) and related modules <jmd>Not much happening today. <jmd>Two holes in the ground! <wingo>civodul: did you get more info on that macro identifier thing? <wingo>there are a few changes in master regarding top-level identifiers and macros; many possibilities <civodul>wingo: yes, that turned out to be easy to fix, so that's cool <civodul>well it took me a while because it's a syntax-case maze in there ;-) <civodul>i read the section you wrote in the manual on this topic and i liked it <wingo>looking forward to 2.0 being the "old stable" release :) <jmd>Is this discussion about guix? <wingo>oh good, i'm glad for that. i never know sometimes, i can convince myself of bad ideas; glad to hear you looked at it <reggggieee>slightly off topic, but does anyone here use sawfish wm? <efraim>Has anyone tried using the store on a nilfs partition? <efraim>Or have another reccomendation for a USB2 mounted store <efraim>Hard drive/spinning rust, not flash based <roelj>efraim: I haven't. But I do know the file system needs to be able to create hard links, so that's something to look into. (I don't know if nilfs can do this.) <janneke>reggggieee: i used to > 10y ago, with guix i'm now using stumpwm <reggggieee>janneke: i looked at stumpwm briefly, does it only do tiling? i want to be able to do auto-fill with keepassx, which a lot tiling wm's don't seem to be able to do <janneke>reggggieee: stumpwm is tiling, i haven't found out how to use a floating frame yet...there seems to be something possible <janneke>reggggieee: they call it `floating group', i'm not sure how or why to use that yet <janneke>i am wondering if people run wicd-gtk, for example, using that <reggggieee>oh hmm, possibly. i def wanna try it with keepassx tho. kinda wondering if it it will be able to switch to a tiled window properly tho <janneke>reggggieee: i never used sawfish in a tiling way, now really addicted to it <reggggieee>janneke: ah, yeah i'm exploring wm's since i've basically transitioned all my programs into an emacs equivalent lol. and i use emacs like a tiling wm p much <efraim>Too many open files caused test failure for libevent on armv8 <jmd>What's the next big thing in Guix? <lfam>jmd: I'd say a better mechanism for updating Guix, and then the fabled "channels" <lfam>It's a warm and sunny Women's Day here where I am :) <civodul>i need to read the latest channel proposal <lfam>In the meantime, version 3 of Marius's `guix pull` patch is working okay for me :) <efraim>Hmmm I still need to add aarch64 to qemu-minimal <civodul>lfam: oh so it should probably go in <lfam>civodul: I'm reading now about Guile string comparison procedures. I want to tweak how it matches the Savannah URL <lfam>Oh, I didn't notice this updated patch on guix-patches. I had been reading the earlier discussion on guix-devel <lfam>Or, I noticed the patch, but didn't see the changes from the earlier patch <lfam>civodul: I think the one you linked to is the latest one ***mildred3 is now known as mildred
<ng0>hi :) 26 hours, 3 guix pulls within that time and none finished... I guess I'll try just rebooting and trying it again, but I doubt that will fix the issue <ng0>"have you tried turning it off and on again?" :) <ng0>the progress after reboot is, it is stuck with unpacking now <ng0>and there isn't even any more output with the --verbose option <ng0>I think giving it a try in one of the runs for 12 hours counts as a bug <ng0>sneek: later tell lfam: how long did the texlive bug/grafting thing take on your end? my 'guix pull' did not finish within 12 hours, gave it 3 tries after the first 12 hours <ng0>one run, in total 26 hours, I gave it two tries <civodul>i upgraded texlive yesterday, i didn't pay attention but it took much less than this <ng0>it's about guix pull <ng0>I wrote an email this morning, after this email I restarted the process <ng0>I just came back, same result <ng0>I know the server config is alright, I was able to update before just fine <ng0>upgrades of texlive are fast on that machine.. enough cores etc <slyfox>does strace hint at what process is acrually doing? <ng0>how do I hook strace into that again? <ng0>i hope I can install strace, and that not something broke which prevents me from doing so <slyfox>guix pull should hopefully be atomic <ng0>well guix package -i strace now hangs.. I'm not sure if I have all the packages to build from git, it was only planned to change to it <ng0>and I can't strace without strace... well I could retry with --verbose of package <ng0>--verbosity=3 shows nothing, that's very odd <ng0>well I guess I'll back up the config repo and redo it <ng0>I'm open to solutions without strace. nothing in /var/log I found helped <ng0>I can't build the checkout either, because I did not expect I need build tools already <ng0>I think I'll just redo this system tomorrow and run it from git.. it's no use and not repairable with what I know of guix. <ng0>I got an reply from tor trademark team. can we evaluate now already what would need to be modified in tor-browser to package it? I am already packaging it, the question is just how the tor-dev community would judge the changes, etc pp. this would affect wether we can name it 'tor-browser' and use the official branding or if I have to discuss further options with them. <ng0>the free distribution guidelines are not my field of expert, so where should this be discussed best? I don't trust lists such as libreplanet because the amount of trolling and derailing is too high for me there to take them seriously <ng0>ask fsf licensing team?