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<roelj>Nevermind, I found it in the manual.
<quiliro>rekado: xournal allows adding text on blank spaces?
<quiliro>roelj: where did you find it?
<roelj>quiliro: In 6.2.3 File Systems
<roelj>quiliro: The 'options' field.
<roelj>Is anyone working on 3.9.1 llvm and clang packages?
<roelj>I have LLVM working, but problems with CLANG
<rekado>quiliro: xournal is very simple. It allows you to draw on the PDF. This includes adding text.
<rekado>you can export a new pdf that includes your changes
<roelj>quiliro: Evince provides a way to add annotations as well, in the form of sticky notes on a PDF page.
<rekado>I use xournal all the time when I need to “sign” documents or complete forms.
<quiliro>rekado: thank looks great
<luser1>Is there a guix way to get the source of say, emacs? I'd like to have the source around so I can jump to C emacs files (Useful for *Help* buffers).
<adfeno>luser1: Yes, there is.
<adfeno>Let me remember the command, just a second...
<adfeno>luser1: You can use the `-S`/`--source[=Source type]` option.
<adfeno>More information can be read by doing `guix build --help`.
<adfeno>However, I think `guix package` *also* accepts it.
<adfeno>(although `guix package --help` doesn't show it).
<quiliro>i have a problem starting with the newer kernel
<quiliro>it occured because a power outage occured
<quiliro>it has been happening since then
<luser1>adfeno: With ‘guix build -S emacs’ I get an xz file, not much I can do with this.
<luser1>What I want is to be able to set ‘source-directory’ to a directory so I can jump to emacs source files referenced in things such as *Help*.
<luser1>I can go and download the source and extract it, but wondering if theres a ‘guix way’ to this.
<adfeno>I'm not sure if I understand...
<lfam>what is core-updates
<lfam>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, gnutls lacks IDN support unless it uses libidn2
<lfam>sneek: Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS
<sneek>I'll keep that in mind.
<lfam>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>Someone once said Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, tcsh's test hangs
<quiliro>for some reason i cannot use
<quiliro>any suggestion for reporting guix system reconfigure problem?
<CharlieBrown> quiliro - Don't use Pastebin. It blocks Tor.
<quiliro>CharlieBrown: what do you suggest?
<lfam>quiliro: I recommend
<CharlieBrown>quiliro: IDK., Pastee,
<quiliro>what is the freeest, most privacy respecting
<lfam>We recommend in the welcome message of this channel
<quiliro>CharlieBrown: which do you recommend best?
<quiliro>my connection is a little flaky....i have the same problem with
<quiliro>perhaps not use the browser
<quiliro>can u suggest how to send directly from the terminal?
<lfam>quiliro: You can use curl to send it to the sprunge pastebin
<lfam>Like this:
<lfam>curl -F 'sprunge=<-' < path/to/file
<lfam>Where 'path/to/file' contains the information you want to share
<quiliro>lfam: how about redirecting the output from a command to curl?
<lfam>Sure, just pipe it to curl
<lfam>Make sure to include stderr:
<lfam>$ command 2>&1 | curl ...
<quiliro>guix system reconfigure /etc/configure 2>&1 | curl l -F 'sprunge=<-'
<quiliro>is that correct?
<lfam>You wrote 'curl l -F'
<lfam>There's an extra 'l' there
<quiliro>thank you
<quiliro>here it is
<CharlieBrown>quiliro: I have no preference.
<quiliro>how can i advocate guix to developers?
<quiliro>will the stack predictability do it?
<quiliro>what do i have to learn to demonstrate it?
<quiliro>and how to solve the reconfigure error?
<quiliro>on the paste
<methalo>quiliro: try to add --fallback
<quiliro>methalo: thank you...will test with it now
<quiliro>with guix system reconfigure /etc/config.scm --fallback 2>&1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-'
<quiliro>only the numbers vary but not the errors or files they reffer to
<lfam>quiliro: This problem started after you lost power?
<quiliro>lfam: yes
<quiliro>i noticed it because on reboot, i had a kernel panic with some selections when booting grub
<quiliro>on the boot grub menu
<lfam>Did you run a filesystem check (fsck) when you rebooted?
<quiliro>lfam: the system did it automatically
<quiliro>but i am using the system now
<quiliro>so it is checked....i assume
<luser1>Well, my guix froze and now I can't log in.
<luser1>My login is ‘stuck’.
<lfam>quiliro: You could try `guix gc --verify`, but it might take a long time. Read about it here before you start it running: <>
<lfam>luser1: A graphical system?
<luser1>Loggin in via slime.
<quiliro>reading the Nix store...
<quiliro>checking path existence...
<lfam>luser1: I would switch to another TTY with 'CTRL + ALT + F2' and then investigate from the console
<quiliro>it finished
<luser1>Logging in via tty, I see bash complains of dbus-launch.
<luser1>And my bash prompt looks weird.
<lfam>luser1: What do you mean by "bash complains of dbus-launch"?
<lfam>quiliro: That was fast!
<lfam>quiliro: Maybe try `guix gc --verify=contents`. This option will probably take a long time, but it will tell you if any files in /gnu/store are corrupted
<luser1>lfam: -bash: dbus-launch: command not found.
<luser1>Okay, so something is happening with $PATH.
<quiliro>since updating guix from 11 to 12 all generations disappeared...all i have is 3
<lfam>That's very weird.
<quiliro>checking hashes...
<lfam>quiliro: Please send a bug report to <>. Please include as much detail as possible
<quiliro>lfam: ok
<luser1>Hm, ~/.guix-profile/etc/profile is empty for some reason.
<lfam>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>Last time I checked Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS
<quiliro>lfam: sending report
<quiliro>how can i advocate guix to developers? will the stack predictability do it? what do i have to learn to demonstrate it?
<atw>quiliro: for me the draw was "you can install dependencies easily and per-project" (guix environment)
<atw>so I'd say guix environment <package> ("there, now you can develop <package>") and guix environment --ad-hoc <package> ("there, now <package> is available"). And neither of those modifies the "installed packages" state
<ZombieChicken>Can grub-configuration accept a UUID these days?
<rekado_>quiliro: I have presented Guix in front of developers and people interested in functional languages at BOBKonf.
<rekado_>quiliro: “guix environment” is cool, having separate persistent profiles is great too.
<rekado_>being able to manipulate the dependency graph programmatically is another.
<catonano>I see $XDG_DATA_DIRS is populated with a lot of stuff. How does it get populated ?
<roelj>Is there a network-manager-service availabe? All I see is 'network-manager-shepherd-service', and it isn't a public function..
<methalo>i dont remember seeing this error:
<methalo>after run 'guix pull'
<methalo>i reconfigure my system and persist!
<ng0>would you be okay with me getting a local limnoria instance in here to test the weblog plugin, to see if it's sufficient enough for the new gnunet bot log view? I just need to test it for a couple of lines.. and need to set it up first of course. I have no real interest in bots, so I don't know if there are special rules on irc networks..
<ng0>to get there of course, it would be nice to solve the weird offloading issue
<ZombieChicken>Anyone here able to get GuixSD to boot using UUIDs? I just installed it into a VM and set the rootfs's UUID (the filesystem is written over the entire drive; there are no partitions) and it can't seem to find the rootfs...
<ng0>"The guile command must be in the search path on the build machines. In addition, the Guix modules must be in $GUILE_LOAD_PATH on the build machine—you can check whether this is the case by running: " isn't that the case already on an GuixSD system when I just install Guile?
<ng0>in GUILE_LOAD_PATH at the end is /run/current-system/profile/share/guile/site/2.0/ which includes guix, guix.scm, etc
<ng0>no matter if/how I solve it, either offloading documentation is still not good enough or one of the systems needs to be redone
<ng0>"hook reply is postpone".. but I have even stoped cuirass on the build machine
<ZombieChicken>ng0: is there a good infopage on the info page format?
<ng0>you mean how to write it?
<ZombieChicken>I'm currently trying to get some test installs working in a VM and keep running across odd stumbling blocks here and there and was thinking of submitting some documentation for them
<ng0>I only know of texinfo and its exports, which is where I only know enough of to fix the export of the gnunet docuemntation right now :)
<ZombieChicken>like how grub can't install to a drive that is taken by a single filesystem w/o a partition table
<ZombieChicken>ah, okay
<ng0>ah, so for guix, contributions to the documentation
<ng0>I've just read the source
<ZombieChicken>which, as far as I know, is in texinfo format
<ng0>and if I haven't found an sample fopr what I needed to do, I searched for something texinfo related
<ZombieChicken>So it's a fairly straight forward file format?
<ng0>this offloading issue makes me angry :/
<ZombieChicken>Good to know
<ZombieChicken>and if it's making you angry, leave and go have lunch or a coffee break or something. Never helps to work on something while angry
<ng0>depends.. just look into it. Some previous contact with LaTeX can help, but doesn't have to
<ZombieChicken>I don't know LaTeX
<ZombieChicken>I'm also trying to figure out how the heck to install the vanilla kernel with all this, which might be a problem
<ng0>there'S probably a cheatsheet on texinfo
<jmd>ZombieChicken: Have you tried asking on #grub about your problem?
<ZombieChicken>One can only hope
<ZombieChicken>jmd: Well, that depends on the problem you are refering to.
<jmd>the grub problem.
<ZombieChicken>There was one I posted to help-guix, and one here
<ng0>I will just redo the build machine... nothing valuable on there so far and maybe reconfigure missed something, idk.. maybe it fixes the issue. if not, I wantd to redpo the layout..I hope that this time I can help to ducment the issues and fix the documentation
<ZombieChicken>ng0: How clean is a guix system reconfigure anyways? Any chance it left a file in place it shouldn't have and is now causing problems?
<ng0>theoretically not
<ng0>but the installations are very old
<user111011>Trying to install the package pwgen, ‘guix package -i pwgen’ returns ‘guix package: error: unsupported manifest format’. What does this mean?
<methalo>user111011: can you post full command/error ?
<user111011>That is the full command and error, methalo.
<user111011>I'm unable to look at packages from within emacs via guix.el as well. When I try listing all the user installed packages:
<user111011>That's from *messages*, the repl buffer closed immediately.
<methalo>i use command line to install packages
<user111011>Sure, but as you can see, from the command line I get a similar error.
<user111011>I'm unable to install packages right now.
<methalo>try 'guix pull' first, i've problem with that!
<user111011>methalo: Tried that already.
<user111011>No luck.
<methalo>you are on GuixSD?
<methalo>you use GuixSD?
<user111011>I'm on GuixSD, yes.
<methalo>at the moment i use an older version
<methalo>while i find the problem
<quiliro>i am using claws mail
<quiliro>and some messages do not get sent, they give me error
<efraim>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>I could be wrong, but core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, gnutls lacks IDN support unless it uses libidn2
<efraim>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>I could be wrong, but Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, tcsh's test hangs
<efraim>sneek: what is core-updates
<sneek>Last time I checked Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, tcsh's test hangs
<quiliro>how can i find out the reason my mails do not get into the queu
<quiliro>i cannot send a report to
<ng0>is it easier when I just send all vim plugins alone and not just a bunch of them?
<ng0>+easier to review
<ng0>I have more I hold back for now because of the ones whic hhave not been reviewed
<snape>is there a file describing the convention for commit messages?
<Apteryx>snape: you can install the package gnu-standards, and then the Change Logs node.
<snape>thanks Apteryx!
<quiliro>i have discovered the reason that Claws Mail will not deliver some of my emails
<quiliro>when there are special characters like ñ or ó it refuses to copy the email to the queue folder
<quiliro>i don't understand why these characters work in other applications and not on Claws Mail.
<quiliro>i have the character problem in the terminal too
<quiliro>how can i solve this issue?
<lfam>sneek: what is core-updates?
<sneek>Last time I checked Core-updates is fontconfig, eudev and cups-minimal FTBFS, tcsh's test hangs
<lfam>sneek: core-updates is ready to build again!
<sneek>So noted.
<quiliro>please help
<paroneayea>quiliro: it looks like you're hitting some sort of unicode error, but beyond that I don't know
<paroneayea>quiliro: are you using guixsd or just guix as a package manager?
<quiliro>paroneayea: GuixSD
<quiliro>how do i know if i correctly set up unicode
<quiliro>or utf8
<quiliro>in the menu of xfce4-terminal
<quiliro>i found "Establish codepage" and it is in UTF-8
<quiliro>in menu "Terminal"
<paroneayea>quiliro: there may be a locales issue? though if you're running guixsd I would think things would just work. but maybe it's specifically an issue with clawsmail?
<paroneayea>I know nothing about that program
<catonano>quiliro: have you tried a Gnome session ? Have you uissue with characters there, too ?
<quiliro>paroneayea: it is an issue with claws mail and with xfce4-terminal
<quiliro>i don't remember if it is an issue with Xfce
<quiliro>i will restart with Gnome
<catonano>quiliro: just as a test
<quiliro>catonano: same problem with Gnome
<catonano>quiliro: so it's not an xfce specific thing
<catonano>quiliro: wat does happen with these faulty characters in the xfce terminal ?