<ng0>I'll rebase, send the patch for review and then I can sleep
<paroneayea>davexunit: got wip-deploy rebased and working :)
<ng0>alright, I'm done. listening to bohren & der club of gore now.. good night
<marusich>I've noticed that the following file systems are mounted in my GuixSD system:
<marusich>this guy: /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
<marusich>and this guy: /dev/sda1 on /gnu/store type ext4 (ro,relatime,data=ordered)
<marusich>How is it possible for /dev/sda1 to be mounted at two separate mount points?
<marusich>I guess that isn't my question, really; I can imagine how that is possible. But what I don't understand is how /dev/sda1 can contain both the root fs and simultaneously the /gnu/store file system; it seems impossible
<mark_weaver>marusich: it's a read-only bind mount. essentially, it's not the root filesystem of /dev/sda1 that's mounted on /gnu/store, but rather a subdirectory of /dev/sda1 that's mounted there (and with different mount flags)
<mark_weaver>e.g. search for "bind mounts" in the documentation for "mount --bind"
<reepca>Question... in the GRUB boot menu, does the time/date next to a configuration mean "when that configuration was effected" or "when that configuration stopped being in effect"? Asking because I'm trying to figure out which configuration I should use to reproduce that "--load-path not being honored by guix system" thing
<domenkozar>civodul: so my question would be, how do you prevent someone from using Guile readFile function (however it's named, a function that returns contents of the file) and pass it to the derivation?
<sneek>bavier, reepca says: it looks like either something's messed up with the package and we're missing firmware (currently only have b0g0bsinitvals5.fw, b0g0intivals5.fw, and ucode5.fw) or something bizarre is happening with linux 4.8.1. I'm gonna try manually building it and see if I get the same files as output
<thomasd>I'm wondering where the suggested paths in guix --search-paths come from
<thomasd>and related: I have packaged a C library with a python wrapper, and wonder if there's a way to help the user set the appropriate $PYTHONPATH to use it. Is there a way to specify those things in your package definition?
<paroneayea>which, I know there are reasons it didn't, and rms documented them (basically, *nix was portable at least well understood-ish, and it was unclear they'd make the right decisions in a lisp machine)
<joshuaBPMan__>paroneayea: RMS I believe said that the LISP machine was pretty poor at seperating user space applications and system specific applications. I'm no lisp machine expert, but I think he claimed that *nix was more secure.
<paroneayea>the great things about fictional history is you can be smugly right about all the things that would happen the way you want them to and pretend that all the downsides don't exist ;)
<paroneayea>joshuaBPMan__: hm, I"d be interested to see where he said that
<paroneayea>> At first, I thought of making a Lisp-based system, but I realized that wouldn't be a good idea technically. To have something like the Lisp machine system, you needed special purpose microcode
<paroneayea>joshuaBPMan__: yeah, so that's him commenting on lisp machines at the time being tied to specialized hardware
<reepca>I did it on my lubuntu install on my laptop, and it worked out for the simple tests I did. I had to keep setting some linker environment variable, though.
<joshuaBPMan__>ok. I'm not sure where (or if) I did hear him say that then.
<CompanionCube>doesn't seem to have a seperate kernel but didn't find enough docs really
<paroneayea>CompanionCube: I met someone who had written something like this which was a combination of sbcl + stumpwm + a bunch of other things, and I saw a live demo of it, but he was against it being it properly free software
<ng0>so dualbooting takes a bit longer... just need a gentoo hardened machine again to run some gentoo packaging on, on bare metal again. ... I think what I want to make 2017 is to get guix hardened, finish up uclibc-ng (I'll get back to that use-flags like post civodul had in 2015 I think) and get as close7far as possible as I can get with my current knowledge on guile and advance on the distributed updates etc
<ng0>so anything which works towards 0 should be advised?
<rekado>built a variant of mesa with "--with-gallium-drivers=i915", "--enable-gallium-llvm", and "--with-dri-drivers=swrast", then loaded them with LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but the reported OpenGL version is still 2.1 :-/