<starikot>There are some things that are confusing to me, so sorry if my questions seem stupid.
<mark_weaver>it seems to me that these questions are mostly meaningless, and depend on one's definitions.
<starikot>GNU was launched by Richard Stallman (rms) in 1983, as an operating system which would be put together by people working together for the freedom of all software users to control their computing. rms remains the Chief GNUisance today.
<starikot>How can it be an operating system when the kernel (Linux) wasn't even made back then?
<ng0>so i wanted to say, I saw the comments voicing concern and 'no' against the suckless.scm move just today
<ng0>iÄm okay with this, and the new st update can be applied (it's in suckless.scm), and i'll update only the copyrights patch, as this adds back one copyright which was left when dwm.scm -> suckless.scm happened
<mark_weaver>I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about having suckless.scm, however I think we should avoid moving packages from one module to another unless there is a good reason to do so, because every time we move a package, we will break people's OS configs and/or profile manifests.
<ng0>i think we should include an additional item in the manual about moving modules. when you do it, you should respect copyrights. even if we do not split up suckless.scm, i'll have to add back some coyprights i found which were lost when dwm.scm because suckless.scm
<mark_weaver>wgreenhouse: I would expect it to work, because grub is the relevant component and we're using a new grub (2.02~beta3), but I cannot confirm.
<mark_weaver>I've seen some newcomers report problems with that because they forgot to create the required partition, and grub complained. I pointed them to the problem and didn't hear back one way or the other.
<mark_weaver>if you try, please let us know how it went, one way or the other
<wgreenhouse>mark_weaver: thanks; will test and report. aiui grub would have to know to copy relevant bits of itself to the UEFI system partition; wasn't sure if there was a guix system configuration syntax for that
<mark_weaver>grub-install seems to try to do exactly that, and even reports failure if the system partition doesn't exist (leading to new users asking questions here about it), so I take that as a good sign.
<mark_weaver>afaik, there's nothing special to do in the GuixSD OS config for this.
<mark_weaver>but I don't have any UEFI systems myself, so I'm making educated guesses here
<jlicht>still one of the most civil escalating ML thread I've read ;-)
<lfam>Did anybody receive my message to guix-devel about the aircrack-ng patch? It seems to have made it to the guix-devel archives, but I got a message back about SPF problems. So I'd like to know if *anyone* got it :)