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*paroneayea reads more docs before attempting his first package...

<paroneayea>damn

<paroneayea>the emacs integration is really impressive in guix

<paroneayea>nice

<paroneayea>I improved how I'm launching guile in guix

<paroneayea>(setq guix-guile-program '("/home/cwebber/devel/guix/pre-inst-env" "guile"))

<paroneayea>much nicer!

<paroneayea>than setting environment variables in emacs :)

<Sleep_Walker>bavier: how do you expect me to use modify-phases? I'm adding one...

<Sleep_Walker>(btw. thanks for review :)

<civodul>Hello Guix!

***mbuf` is now known as mbuf

<rekado_>I just upgraded to latest master and noticed that multiple versions of the same packages:

<rekado_>downloading `/gnu/store/afdpiaic366261z5hm0ad9v9kqrixnwz-glibc-utf8-locales-2.21'

<rekado_>downloading `/gnu/store/h2q68bdivjnj5g74jq801sj30flbka64-glibc-utf8-locales-2.21'

<rekado_>or this one:

<rekado_>downloading `/gnu/store/5amq4lkzaac8rlnyp85xgzlvxkpyj68z-ncurses-5.9'

<rekado_>downloading `/gnu/store/3fkfh31j9w0521wscigy2xgxmsmigr92-ncurses-5.9'

<rekado_>downloading `/gnu/store/l1pbbpj0i2bcav7lblhnj7pmy74gg40a-ncurses-5.9'

<rekado_>same for gmp-6.0.0a

<rekado_>Is this really necessary?

<rekado_>The list of packages to be downloaded only showed one of ncurses and gmp.

<civodul>rekado_: there are intermediate versions of these packages used during bootstrap

<civodul>that could explain what you are seeing

<civodul> http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html switched to the new logo \\o/

<davexunit>nice! best logo on there ;)

<sneek>Welcome back davexunit, you have 3 messages.

<sneek>davexunit, ArneBab says: Nice! The great free software git exodus has begun ☺

<sneek>davexunit, ArneBab says: (moving to self-hosting)

<sneek>davexunit, nalaginrut says: where do you put sly after gitorious became readonly? ;-)

<davexunit>sneek bomb

<civodul>:-)

<davexunit> http://nginx.org/?1.8

<davexunit>nginx 1.8 stable is out

<rekado_>I see that there a couple of runpath problems with R. Will take a look at them and the ngs-sdk failures tomorrow.

<mark_weaver>civodul: is there a reasonable way to make the 'guix-devel' package use a commit that's in my local git repo and not yet pushed to savannah?

<mark_weaver>davexunit: cool! I guess we should update, if you are inspired to do so :)

<mark_weaver>rekado: thank you for the hydra patches! I hope to play with them soon.

<mark_weaver>civodul: btw, I successfully updated my guix system from i686 to x86_64 in-place, with minimal fuss. very impressive!

<davexunit>mark_weaver: you could write a guix-devel package that changes the git repo URI to a file:// URI, I think

<rekado_>mark_weaver: I think it was bavier ;) I did not work on hydra patches.

<mark_weaver>oh, right. oops!

<mark_weaver>bavier: thank you for the hydra patches! I hope to play with them soon.

<civodul>mark_weaver: like davexunit says, i think

<civodul>mark_weaver: ooh excellent!

<davexunit>I've been wishing for a way to use a git origin that didn't do a SHA check, for quick development stuff.

<civodul>mark_weaver: did you have to resort to special hacks?

<civodul>you need a blog to write about that ;-)

<mark_weaver>civodul: I had to add a 'linux-libre-64' package that was close to what you suggested, but also with the native-inputs

<civodul>(says the one who doesn't have one)

<mark_weaver>changed a bit ("kconfig" replaced)

<civodul>ah ok

<mark_weaver>it had to be done carefully to produce the exact same derivation at the one on hydra

<civodul>oh right, that's a funny game ;-)

<mark_weaver>and then I had to build 'guix' for x86_64-linux, and run it directly

<mark_weaver>but it was relatively straightforward

<civodul>ok

<civodul>well that's an interesting experiment

*civodul has to go

<civodul>later!

<mark_weaver>davexunit, civodul: I changed the URL to /home/mhw/guix which is my local git repo.. the only minor snag was that /home/mhw/guix/.git/objects/info/pack was readable only by 'mhw'. not sure why git decided to make that single file private, but all others world-readable...

<mark_weaver>so I just chmod'd that file and all was good..

<davexunit>cool

<davexunit>glad that worked

<davexunit>with minimal fuss

<bavier>mark_weaver: your welcome for the patches. let me know how they work.

<bavier>*you're

*civodul reopens core-updates, yay!

<bavier>\\o]

<bavier>\\o/

<bavier>:P

<bavier>I'll push that perl patch soon

<civodul>oh yes, because this one is going to be *really* short-lived

<civodul>like a couple of days

<civodul>well, i mean it'll be frozen after that

<bavier>ok

<civodul>not that i want to put too much pressure either ;-)

<bavier>:)

<paroneayea>guix by default is no longer using nix, right?

<civodul>it's never "used" Nix

<civodul>we just stole a bunch of code, that's it ;-)

<rekado>I have a collision: warning: collision encountered: /gnu/store/hb6c130ky841x14cn1gl9qx1kavi37w9-gcc-toolchain-4.9.2/include/asm/..install.cmd /gnu/store/cnid7y7d4d6b7ssqza0x9jfgply90z27-linux-libre-headers-3.14.37/include/asm/..install.cmd

<civodul>(the daemon)

<rekado>linux-libre-headers is not installed to my profile, though.

<rekado>is this expected?

<civodul>it may be propagated from glibc or something?

<civodul>you can browse ~/.guix-profile/manifest to see

<paroneayea>civodul: got it :)

<rekado>is anyone here using different profiles on a regular basis?

<rekado>like, a dedicated profile for development work, another for user software ...?

<rekado>(does this even make sense?)

<civodul>no, i use 'guix environment' for software development at work

<davexunit>same

<davexunit>(naturally)

<civodul>:-)

<rekado>I just built guix with guix and I had to install a couple of things that I would not normally keep around in my profile.

<rekado>(as instructed in the README)

<civodul>like auto{conf,make}?

<davexunit>rekado: I run...

<davexunit>guix environment -e '(@@ (gnu packages package-management) guix-devel)'

<civodul>README should mention 'guix environment'

<civodul>i thought it did

<rekado>I shall try this next time. Would be nice to have something like this in the docs.

*rekado goes afk

<davexunit>civodul: I proposed a patch for it months ago but there was issue with the text and I never cleaned it up.

<davexunit>:/

<civodul>davexunit: oh ok

<civodul>that's still a good idea anyway ;-)

<davexunit>but a little blurb with the above command would be good

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