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<jmd>I think there's a tag one can put on a package to indicate that it cannot be cross-compiled. Can anyone remember what it is? *davexunit now has ratpoison setup to run in his .xsession <davexunit>so, what exactly do I need to do in order for the lsh-service to actually work? <davexunit>but I don't know if its something that I'm supposed to place in the root filesystem manually or some other way <davexunit>I think I got the ssh situation figured out. time to reboot and find out. <[TheFlash]>hi, i'm trying to install GNU Guix 0.8, but i'm having a problem with the terminal <[TheFlash]>ever since the term-tty1 service started, the video mode has been switched to some really slow mode <[TheFlash]>is there any way to switch it back to the regular 80x25 text mode? <[TheFlash]>seriously, waiting 3 minutes for the screen to scroll is too much <nkar>going to install a standalone system shortly. is the 'gnu-usb-install-0.8' tarball still recommended? <jxself>Sure why not? You could probably get away without it though if the machine already has an existing system you're putting it on a separate partition. <davexunit>nkar: yes, that's what I used for my system. <nkar>is anyone interested to mention in the manual that the tarball has an openpgp signature and add instructions on how to use it? <davexunit>guix archive --authorize < hydra.gnu.org.pub <nkar>davexunit: I'm talking about the gnu-usb-install-0.8-*.sig <nkar>btw, did ludo create a new key? <nkar>davexunit: do you know why the image lacks lvm support? <Iloiny>any clues what nix-build-gcc-4.8.3.drv-0 is ? is guix building its own gcc? trying to install a package and getting spammed with stuff with this <jmd>There needs to be a flag meaning the opposite of --no-substitutes <nkar>I'm getting "no such device" when running 'dhclient eth0' while working from a usb stick. any clues? <jmd>nkar: I noticed that too. <jmd>I think it is getting renames <nkar>it's got renamed. but why? <jmd>I have no idea. Maybe the new kernel does that. <nkar>okay, got it working. thanks, jmd <nkar>jmd: are you using a standalone system, too? <jmd>I have played with it. <nkar>yeah, that's what the manual says. I'm more interested if there are any problems. <nkar>I'd like to encrypt a partition. do I need to 'guix build' cryptsetup for that? is it a good idea to run it as root (it's the only on the image)? <davexunit>nkar: I'm not sure what the blockers are for lvm support. <davexunit>and then do whatever it is that you do to encrypt <davexunit>(I don't know how to use that tool, as I've never encrypted a volume) <nkar>there's no guix install command. do you mean guix package -i ...? <davexunit>probably muscle memory. I still catch myself typing 'apt-get' on my guix system. <jmd>I'm don't seem to be getting substitutes anymore. I don't even get a message that hydra is unavailable. <jmd>Is there a way of specifiying the exact path in /gnu/store to install ? <davexunit>hmmmm not sure. I wouldn't think so, because that could compromise the integrity of the system. <jmd>I mean, to say like nix has an nix-store --import command. <jmd>Does guix have something similar? <davexunit>hmmm I don't know. I don't know enough about that part of guix. <davexunit>uh oh, ran into a collision that caused a package install to fail. *nkar installs cryptsetup <davexunit>that file has no business there. need to figure out how to move it and make sure everything still works. *davexunit loves how easy it is to get the source code for something <jmd>Is there a way to force retrieval of a substiute? That is, to prevent local building? <nkar>civodul: do you encrypt your partitions? <davexunit>heh, and'guix environment abbaye' to reproduce the build env. this is such a great workflow. <davexunit>it's a trivial patch, so I'm going to push it. <nkar>civodul: will dm-crypt work without luks? (I'm referring to the 'luks-device-mapping' type.) how exactly did you encrypt your partition? <nkar>okay, 'guix package -i cryptsetup --no-substitutes' failed with "no space left on device". how much space does it need to bootstrap? <davexunit>now, my issue that is SDL and OpenAL can't find the audio device <davexunit>abbaye just crashes because SDL_mixer can't find a sound device <civodul>nkar: actually that partition was already encrypted <civodul>with "cryptsetup luksFormat something", i think <nkar>which cryptsetup doesn't return anything <civodul>'guix package -i cryptsetup' should work if you have some RAM <nkar>so do I need to install using the substitutes? <civodul>otherwise, you'll need to (1) mount a partition, and (2) use it with 'deco start cow-store /the/partition' <civodul>with substitutes you'll need little space <nkar>free -m shows 136 below 'free' <civodul>i suppose that's enough if you use substittues <civodul>i have to go, but let me know how it went tomorrow <nkar>I've already tried without substitutes. do I need to clean some space? if so, how? <nkar>I'm aware of 'guix gc', but I'm worried that it may delete too much. <civodul>nkar: without substitutes, you need to do the cow-store thing as i wrote above <civodul>but really, you should try with substitutes *civodul hopes some patches will be reviewed while he's AFK :-) <nkar>I'm assuming that my previous attempt already consumed some space <nkar>and I'm wondering how to clean it up <davexunit>despite building sdl with alsa-lib and pulseaudio, programs built with SDL can't use sound :( <davexunit>but then abbaye crashes for another reason...