<mark_weaver>jxself: the ffmpeg update broke vlc. I tried updating vlc to 2.1.5 (the latest release), but that doesn't build either. it says "configure: error: libavcodec versions 56 and later are not supported yet.".
<jmd>So there is no bootable installer for mips. Is there any other way to install on such a machine?
<mark_weaver>jmd: I run Guix on both of my mips machines, but within another host OS (Debian in one case, and my own home-built system based on Cross [GNU/]Linux From Scratch).
<mark_weaver>jmd: truth be told, I've mostly lost interest in MIPS (since it's far from clear that Lemote will ever produce another computer capable of running 100% free software, and now there's the Libreboot X60), so the most I'm motivated to do is keep our mips port from regressing. someone else will have to push it forward, if anyone cares.
<tadni>What GRUB and SLIM artwork/theme's do we want?
*tadni would throw in some money into the pot, if I knew it was going into a designer's hands for said goals.
<davexunit>yeah I dunno if we plan to pay any designers
<davexunit>but the web development side of things is getting better with me around, if I do say so myself.
*tadni sees branding as, by far, the biggest issue the FSF and by proxy, GNU has.
<tadni>It's sad that freedom in-regards to software, has to be made smexy/attractive -- but for the average person, branding really does matter.
<tadni>I think GNOME is doing a GREAT job on that front, but that's the excpetion in regards to GNU projects -- by no means the rule.
<tadni>And for many GNU projects, while it still matters, it matters a lot less. Anything that is going to be developer centric, people will put up with a lot more.
<tadni>If we are going to have a unified GNU distro, I want it to be as appealing as possible to the average user though.
<tadni>Leveraging GNOME (when we can get around the systemd stuff) is going to be a huge part of that, me thinks, but too there are a lot of rough edges that may turn the curious off -- that are not inherent to such an environment. Some things we can't forego for the everyman's comfort, like non-free drivers ... but making GNU.org more easy to navigate and making the insigina more modern looking, etc, I think it a VERY important pursuit and
<tadni>something we should be talking about sooner rather than later.
<tadni>I don't know how we go about this, moving onward though.
<tadni>Hiring a professional would help a bunch -- but there should eventually be some sort of branding/marketing team in place like other distros seem to have.
<davexunit>tadni: I agree with you about better branding. I don't think we're in the majority, though.
<davexunit>so it's a battle that I don't really want to fight.
<tadni>davexunit: Yeah, I just don't know what would be the best way towards this.
<davexunit>me either. even modernizing the gnu.org website architecture is a massive undertaking with many resistant to change
<tadni>What's the point of the CMS for fsf.org, for stuff like the Free Software Directory?
<davexunit>so that non-technical people can edit and post entries via the web interface.
<tadni>davexunit: For, FSD though, right? That's the main driving factor?