<Svetlana>turns out I can enable virtualisation in this bios and loading kvm and kvm-intel modules does not return errors; disk image build complains that it "Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied"
<Svetlana>"/dev/kvm device node must exist and be readable and writable by the user and by the daemon’s build users. " means I should make it world writable? or add myself & build users to a group and chown it to that group, chmod 660?
<civodul>yes, you could create a "kvm" group and add those users to that group
<tadni_>Hm, well not enough time the morning to mess with it anymore. Classes then nap, before I can play some more ...
<tadni_>Oh well, off to classes. Peace for now #guix. o/
<alezost>tadni_: guix.el from <https://github.com/alezost/guix.el> is a bit outdated. Most likely you didn't install Guix in a default site directory (/usr/share/guile/site/2.0/guix/) so (guix config) module is not found. "guix.el" will be merged into guix git repo very soon and this problem will disappear.
<alezost>civodul: I noticed a couple of little things that should be fixed, so the merging is postponed for a day.
<Svetlana>i did chmod 666 /dev/kvm; i now get "ioctl(KVM_CREATE_VM) failed: 16 Device or resource busy"
<davexunit>programatically evaluating scheme code through geiser.
*tadni_ is slowly edging away at this "emaculate" GNU and Emacs config. He'll probably will get stumpwm packaged before he releases it though. Ratpoison is now the default over guile-wm, because guile-wm kept crashing ocassionally.
<tadni_>So, two bigish gui applications conciveably on the horizon would be a "proper" gui installer, a'la Fedora or Ubuntu -- and an "app store" like interface for browsing Emacs packages. I wonder for the latter if we could arrange packagekit support for/from GNOME and just use gnome-software?
<davexunit>and I don't think the devs were keen on changing it for guix.
<tadni_>davexunit: Yeah, that's what I expected. I wonder how much of pain it would be just to get guix working in it, sans the packagekit ... or if it would really be a lot easier/smarter to make yet-another-gui-application-browser.
<davexunit>a frontend using guile-gnome would be best, imo.
<jxself>Ah ha - Yes, definitely something that should appear on planet.gnu.org.
<tadni_>jxself: Yeah -- I'm more interested to see the general reaction of the GNOME devs, hopefully when/if GNU disto gets some major attention ... then we won't see much restiance.
<davexunit>if GNU were the solar system, GNOME would be an exoplanet.
<tadni_>I mean, providing an relatively easy means to not use systemd should be a priority ... I'd be fairly shocked if that actually happens in GNOME proper. We might have a few devs interested in that, but ends up being a hardish to maintain fork.
<tadni_>davexunit: I don't think the GNOME Foundation helped them to stay truish to that GNU Ethos. Many people I've talked to doesn't know that GNOME is a GNU project even. Also remember when that guy wanted to seperate GNOME from GNU?
<jxself>Heh. Yeah, Every now and again they seem to have some sort of existential crisis. Are they a GNU package or not? etc.
<davexunit>yeah, well the GNOME foundation seems to be in close contact with the FSF, at least. GNOME people are always featured prominently at libreplanet.
<davexunit>maybe if this whole GNU distro sillyness gets traction they could be convinced to stick closer to GNU?
<Tsyesika>is guix ready to be used as your main distro?
<jxself>er Why hasn't someone packaged up SSL stuff?
<Tsyesika>hm probably doable I am use to dealing with gentoo installs a lot :P
<davexunit>jxself: it's a non-trivial problem. mark_weaver has some plans to fix it, I think.
<DusXMT>I'd love Libreoffice, but considering it's a gigantc project, I think I'll just package abiword (should be easy since gnumeric is already packages) and use that, unless someone does it faster than me
<Tsyesika>maybe i can package some stuff if i ever get around to running it
<tadni_>davexunit: I was hoping when I first heard of the GNU distro becoming a thing, that it would become the "GNOME OS" they've been talking about for near 3 years ... but it seems that all the features they want to do will be based around linux, such as "application sandboxing" via containers and the like ... so I'm not convienced such a thing will happen. A fair amount of "that" I think is due to the development being funded by Redhat
<davexunit>you'll be just fine. feel free to ask questions here or on #guile
<tadni_>davexunit: Once you get past the parens, which any editor should handle 80% of those anyways ... just learning Elisp as more-or-less a first lang (by no means know for beauty/elegance like Scheme) has been a delight.
<davexunit>I still don't know elisp as well as I shou.d