<jxself>Think of Guix as a part of the overall GNU system. A package manager alone does not an operating system make. :)
<tadni>jxself: What I think Svetlana is referring too the fact the "Download GNU Now" button on the homepage of gnu.org takes one to the Free GNU/Linux distributions page and not to the Guix based system... though I could be wrong.
<jxself>It does indeed go there. Guix will be included once it's done with the endorsement process.
<jxself>RMS made it very clear that he didn't want the GNU system to be treated any differently from any other distros, so it will go through the exact same process.
<jxself>Less people running those FSF-endorsed distros feel like they're somehow "less" or something.
<tadni>Personally I'd like to see a dedicated page eventually to GNU, like my stated earlier distro.gnu.org to showcase some of it's features, but yeah -- having a central place to download a myriad of Free Software Distros is nice to have. Though I suppose saying we "officially support" this one is useful information though.
<jxself>Since none of the other distros get a dedicated page, that probably won't be happening... unless you manage to convince RMS. Feel free. :)
<tadni>None of the other distributions are officially supported by the GNU project though, besides gnewsense but that was a while ago.
<tadni>In a year though, once Guix has matured a bit more -- making such a case might be more worth it than now.
<jxself>Maybe, but it's RMS you must convince if you want it treated any differently from the other distros.
<Svetlana>My personal feeling remains that package info for GUI stuff needs to contain details as to what DEs (currently GNUStep and GNOME are the main ones of interest) it looks pretty with. I should probably go and encourage all Free Distros to do so, too. As this is a major drawback of the free desktop. :S
<DusXMT>No, not at all. It was just a single-cored atom based netbook, and it started breaking down after the warranty wore off. Now, 4 year later from when I bought it, it doesn't even get past the POST screen. Stay away from cheap computers
<philed>Yeah, I've had a couple of cheap ones, neither of which got past a year.
<DusXMT>Then I moght have been lucky, pulling it for 4 years
<jxself>It's been almost 3 weeks. The world seems to have entered a period of drought for kernel updates.
<DusXMT>I believe the guix that is in /gnu/store/*guix*/, after you installed it, has it's own package database and isn't aware of /gnu/store/*glibc*, so it replaces it, but fails as it can't work without the C library
<DusXMT>iyzsong: what I can recommend: follow the README file on `Installing Guix from Guix', which explains how to install guix that will be self-dependent
<DusXMT>iyzsong: it simply works like that, I had the same exact problem, but with a running Guix system.
<DusXMT>I'm pretty sure you configured the original guix from git with --prefix=/usr/local (implict), which stores the store database in /usr/local/var/guix, but the guix from /store/*guix* expects it to be in /var/guix
<civodul>dxk: yeah as long as $localstatedir has the right value, everything is fine
<DusXMT>Is there a way to install CA certificates using guix? On my gnu system, I tried to download guix from git, but it failed on the ./bootstrap script, as it couldn't check the certificate. Of course this can be worked around, but I would rather fix it if I can
<DusXMT>I didn't see any package called ca-certificates or similar, and I have both openssl and gnutls installed
<davexunit>DusXMT: our CA cert situation isn't great right now. I believe mark_weaver has plans to improve it.
<tandi>Sans the Stumpwm though, Feh, Scrot, and Rtorrent are the only applications I use on a regular basis that aren't packaged yed. Sadly the latter 3, I wasn't able to package the night of the hackathon ... I got migraine and just went to bed early that day. I'm not sure if I'll have a lot of free time between then and the next hackathon either (last friday of this month) to do anything substaintal either ... Such is life. :^P
<tandi>At least, by the time 1.0 hits though ... I should be able to fully convert over, so I have some time regardless.
<tandi>Last week's would've been my first, assuming I didn't have that major headpain. When it hurts to look at light, it's a no-go for staring at a screen for four plus hours ... bummer too, I was excited.
<tandi>I pretty much plan to go every month in the concievable future, and package 2-3+ things if possible, for guix though.
<tandi>Emms, Clisp, Stumpwm, Rtorrent, Feh, Scrot, and maybe openbox are all on my list thusfar. Hoping to nail the first three by the time this month's over. School and this part-time job has been a huge sink of productivity, sadly in this realm.
<tandi>Also possibly Wicd, I don't know what would be the best route to get wireless "working" on Guix at this point. :^P
<ijp>is there a list online of all the currently packaged, er, packages