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*janneke just got a partly succes on guix package -i hello <janneke>i suspect that non-root guix-daemon usage, without guix-builders may not work <janneke>difficult to find was also that even if you don't install, $prefix/var/guix needs to be removed along with /gnu/store <davexunit>there are many limitations for non-root guix-daemon <davexunit>I strongly recommend you run the daemon as the root user <janneke>i wanted to test the non-root non-build users version now that i have this running <janneke>and based on my results suggest to change the documentation <janneke>reading it for the first time, non-root, not-10 extra accounts guix-daemon usage seems very appealing <davexunit>makes sense that there could be some bugs there, none of us really use the daemon as an unprivileged user. <janneke>"we" (grin) may want to discourage that (or give a simple recipe how to do it) <janneke>i understand that, but for a "let's try if this works", i don't really care <janneke>i *do* care about cleaning up all those guix-builder users if i don't like to continue with it <janneke>a script for setting up and for deleting those users, would be nice <janneke>instead of in-line bash stuff in the manual <janneke>i wrote something like that once, while checking out NIXOS <janneke>anyway, i'm happy to have it somewhat running, next step: mingw cross build <davexunit>I want to write some scripts to use guix as a bundler/virtualenv replacement <janneke>I want to get rid of GUB (LilyPond's cross build package) <janneke>we wrote a crappy version of guix, called GUB <davexunit>I haven't written actual sheet music since college, but the output of lilypond looks so nice. <janneke>in python, with nice classes for package descriptions <taylanub>Any sufficiently complicated distro or package manager contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of Nix. <janneke>i looked at NIXOS and one of the reasons to not look further, was their crappy package description language <janneke>taylanub: yes, Nix is truly brilliant <janneke>and guix is replacing just that sore spot <davexunit>yeah, nix is great but it's unfortunate that they made up their own programming language instead of using a general purpose language <janneke>i hope that when i have mingw bootstrapped... <janneke>importing all LilyPond's GUB packages from Python to Guile/Guix should be fairly easy <janneke>davexunit: yeah, we probably all made that mistake a couple of times <janneke>that's what we did right with GUB, however we implemented our own crappy package manager <janneke>crap, most of gtk and libreoffice compiles to mingw with GUB <davexunit>and additionally, there are *way* too many special-purpose package managers hanging around. <davexunit>every programming language has its own package manager now and it's insane. *tadni` is working on font-terminus <tadni`>I need to figure out how to link to non-included licenses.