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<davexunit>the linux-libre penguin is pretty cute
<jxself>Freshly showered.
<jxself>Is another version.
<davexunit>wooooo! it booted!
<davexunit>time to install!
<jxself>What did you do differently?
<davexunit>I'm not totally sure
<davexunit>I did the same dd command and ran sync
<jxself>And you did that before too? Hmm.
<davexunit>the only thing I did differently was not hit the little "eject" button in the nautilus file manager
<davexunit>but I don't see how that could corrupt the image
<jxself>Does the USB stick have an acitivty LED?
<jxself>er; activity
<jxself>The only thing I could think of is if the data were not fully written when it was unplugged.
<davexunit>yeah, but I made sure I ran sync first. weird.
<mark_weaver>davexunit: maybe the old filesystem was mounted while you wrote the new bare image.
<davexunit>ah, that could've been the problem
<mark_weaver>and then, when you hit eject, it might have tried to write some updates to the old filesystem or something.
<mark_weaver>that's one thing I've noticed with gnome 3: if you want to write an image over an existing removable filesystem, you have to manually run the umount command; if you eject using the GUI, it will not only umount, but also make the entire device go away.
<davexunit>yeah I ran into that issue as well
<jxself>You can also unmount in GNOME's Disk Utility thingy.
<mark_weaver>anyway, that's good news about the X60! I have my own X60; I'll have to try an install soon.
<jxself>If you want a GUI.
<mark_weaver>jxself: ah, okay.
<davexunit>fingers crossed that the install goes okay.
<davexunit>gah, having trouble downloading substitutes
<davexunit>hydra is always somewhat unreliable. always under heavy load.
<jxself>Time for a new machine.
<davexunit>downloading now, yay!
<jxself>Seems that the "Complete Distros" criterion is met, or almost.
<jxself>Assuming all goes well.
<davexunit>how do I format an ext4 parition if mkfs.ext4 is not available?
<mark_weaver>davexunit: mke2fs -j
<davexunit>also unavailable :(
<mark_weaver>it's in the e2fsprogs package
<davexunit>can't find a package by that name, either
<davexunit>really? just installed that
<mark_weaver>it's in /sbin
<davexunit>ah, thanks
<davexunit>learning a lot by installing an OS the hard way
<jxself>What is the criteria for size anyway?
<mark_weaver>hehe, indeed. the debian installer makes it so easy
<davexunit>I need guix to stop trying to compile stuff, I will run out of memory on this machine.
<jxself>Considering that Debian can take up an entire dual-layer blu-ray disk.
<Steap>davexunit: mayeb we need a "--force-substitutes" option :)
<gry>is the qemu image supposed to work out of the box or only after some extra effort on my side?
<davexunit>gry: which image?
<davexunit>gah, guix keeps failing to download substitutes. :(
<davexunit>memory exhausted compiling guix 0.6
<davexunit>giving up for tonight
<jxself>--force-substitutes seems like a good idea.
<davexunit>perhaps I can contoct a patch sometimes. I wonder if such an option is even supported by the daemon. if not, I wonder if upstream would think it was a good idea.
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<abaw>hi, I am interested in trying guix. In guix's manual, it states that Guix is compatible with Nix, so it is possible to share the same store between both.
<abaw>Does it means I could use guix to install nix packages and vice visa?
<abaw>guix seems to be a better interface to me. But nix has many haskell packages which I will use
<civodul>Hello Guix!
<gry>abaw: Hi. says "Guix is compatible with Nix, so it is possible to share the same store between both." but someone should confirm whether this works the way you intend (I think it would, but I'm only starting to read the docs and did not even try it out yet)
<civodul>yup, should work
<civodul>though there was a directory name change lately
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<svetlana>civodul, hi.
<svetlana>is the qemu image supposed to work out of the box?
<civodul>svetlana: yes, but the one published along with 0.6 has several issues
<davexunit>hello, guix. anyone up at this hour?
*civodul goes to a meeting
<civodul>i'll be back later today
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*civodul just received 1,000 Guix stickers
<civodul>i think i can decorate each wall of the town now :-)
<civodul>i'll stealthily drop some at the Cauldron, to begin with
<davexunit>civodul: awesome!
<davexunit>mail some to the FSF ;)
<jxself>And do you take orders?
<civodul>i could send some on the other side of the pond, sure :-)
<civodul>though it might be cheaper to make them directly there ;-)
<davexunit>yeah that's true
<davexunit>is it just the logo that's on the home page?
<civodul>yes, just the logo
<civodul>damn, our vlc's "take snapshot" feature doesn't work
<civodul>it says "Failed to convert image for snapshot"
<civodul>so i can't even take a picture
<davexunit>civodul: I should be able to squeeze in another installation attempt in about an hour when I get home, before I head out again.
<davexunit>hopefully it will work. I don't know why it's trying to build guix 0.6.
<davexunit>I need to check again to make sure, but I think I only have 1GB of RAM.
<civodul>oh, ok
<civodul>though i would expect 1 GB to be enough
<civodul>or perhaps it's trying to build several things at once, or use -jN with too large an N?
<davexunit>yeah it could be that, too.
<davexunit>not sure how to narrow it down, really.
<davexunit>I was sooo bummed when I saw the out of memory error.
<jxself>Do you still get a file from VLC though?
<civodul>well the substituter we have in master is also memory-intensive when it first populates the local cache
<civodul>because it spawns many threads
<civodul>jxself: no, nothing
<davexunit>civodul: I might only have 512MB of RAM, will check when I get home.
<davexunit>I just might have some ddr2 ram lying around my house that I can toss in...
<civodul>sneek: later tell davexunit
<sneek>Got it.
<civodul>using ffmpeg did the trick
<jxself>Ah, from the webcame?
<jxself>er webcam
<civodul>i was too lazy to get my camera etc.
<jxself>VLC should have been able to as well.
<jxself>And now we get to see the tips of (some) civodul's fingers.
<civodul>typing an obscure ffmpeg command line
<bavier>what are you thinking of using the stickers for?
<bavier>civodul: thanks for the patch review ;)
<civodul>you're welcome :-)
<civodul>i'll distribute them at hackers meetings i guess
<civodul>and to hackers who can distribute them at other hacker meetings
<civodul>something like that :-)
<bavier>there's an unfortunate lack of such hackers meetings in my neck of the woods :(
<civodul>in what place?
<civodul>Wikipedia suggests there are groundhogs there, that's pretty cool ;-)
<bavier>the common loons are more entertaining ;)