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<civodul>Hello Guix!

<Steap>4pm, seems like Guix overslept

<civodul>yup!

<civodul>it's cold and cloudy today, otherwise i'd be away

<Steap>Are you implying that Guix will be released faster if we have shitty weather ?

<civodul>could be ;-)

<jmd>It's sunny here.

<jmd>civodul: Regarding your review of my patch ...

<jmd>Those libraries are named by upstream with upper case. I thought we followed the upstream naming verbatim?

<civodul>jmd: yes.. except for case and dashes :-)

<jmd>ok.

<jmd>Is that documented somewhere?

<civodul>see "Package Naming" in the manua,

<civodul>*manual

<civodul>the part about dashes is not mentioned, i'll add it

<jmd>ok.

<jmd>This policy complicates the formation of the url!

<jmd>I can no longer say (uri (string-append

<jmd> "mirror://gnome/sources/" name "/" (string-take version 3) "/" name "-"

<jmd> version

<jmd> ".tar.bz2"))

<jmd>

<jmd>Can we leave the name as original, but the public definition in lower case?

<taylanub>how do I get the manuals in $guix_profile/share/info listed in the (dir) page? looks like $guix_profile/share/info/dir is missing

<grasshopprWhoppr>jmd, is there a tolower() function?

<jmd>grasshopprWhoppr: That wouldn't help.

<jmd>I would need a to-how-it-was-in-the-first-place function.

<taylanub>oh, after a 'guix package -u' I have a dir file, but from glibc ..

*grasshopprWhoppr thought how it was (uppercase) was the opposite of what you needed, jmd.

<jmd>the problem is that the original string is mixed case.

<grasshopprWhoppr>so you need a hyphen @ every cap?

<jmd>no

<grasshopprWhoppr>Why would mixed case be a problem for a tolower function if you only need a lowercase name? If you need to revert the name, can't you store it in a variable and then call that variable later?

<jmd>I suppose I could but that would make it even more complicated.

<civodul>taylanub: yes, 'dir' files are yet to be correctly handled...

<civodul>jmd: i think it's better to stick to a clear rule, otherwise it's going to be messy

<jmd>Would cividul be happy if I wrote (name (tolower "libIDL")) ? I don't think so.

<civodul>repeating the name in the URL is fine, i think

<civodul>just (name "libidl")

<civodul>case-mapping is done at packaging time :-)

<jmd>We need an (upstream-name "...") field.

<civodul>why?

<jmd>gtg

<jmd>how many packages in guix these days?

<taylanub>tub@taylan:~$ guix package -A | wc -l

<taylanub>701

<zerwas>I read 742

<jmd>I think taylanub's number is in the latest release.

<jmd>(my local repo has 767)

<taylanub>oh, one doesn't get new packages until one updates guix, right? will we have a package DB eventually like other package managers tend to have?

<civodul>taylanub: you're supposed to run "guix pull" to receive updates

<civodul>it essentially does "git pull && make install", conceptually

<civodul>the "DB" is a set of modules, you know :-)

<jmd>civodul: That makes sense. However, it begs the question : what purpose does a Guix "release" serve?

<civodul>jmd: currently it's more of a milestone, as i view it

<civodul>because there are still fundamental things that are evolving

<civodul>eventually, when the base has become more stable, it'll be pretty much like for other distros: a way to mark a stable point in time

<civodul>but yeah, we'll see

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