<zacts>well I hope to complete my readings through ch4 or ch5 of Scheme and the Art of Programming tonight..
<mark_weaver>for the last few years I've mostly worked on Guile, but lately I've been hacking on Guix some. I also worked closely with Phil Zimmermann at PGP, Inc. I led the project to produce scannable paper books with the source code of PGP, along with tools to make the scanning practical, such that PGP could be legally exported, even though PGP was considered a "munition" at the time and thus not exportable in other ways.
<zacts>mark_weaver: hm.. red hat (first gnu/linux distro) 90's (I was a kid, then forgot about computers) -> Ubuntu/Debian 2009? (interested in computers again) -> emacs -> emacs lisp -> common lisp -> scheme -> vim -> perl -> emacs -> scheme.
<zacts>when I discovered GNU after using ubuntu/debian (my second computing phase) I realized why free software was important
<zacts>I guess I always thought we should be able to understand our computers
<mark_weaver>ah, both! I started out on Apple (before the Mac), then the Mac, then NeXT (which later became MacOS X), and then switched to free unix exclusively around 1994, starting with the free BSD systems, and then to Debian.
<zacts>I also have experience with FreeBSD/OpenBSD
<zacts>mark_weaver: that's good, I used to be an avid gamer in the 2000 - 2007 years
<mark_weaver>what triggered your second phase of interest in computers?
<zacts>mark_weaver: I actually remember. I saw some video on the internet somewhere about "Ubuntu Linux" and I remembered the name "Linux" from when I was a kid. I put in the LiveCD and it worked so I installed it.
<mark_weaver>somehow, I managed to avoid spending too much time on games. every once in a while there was a game that captured by attention for a while, but for the most part I've always focused on programming from my very first usage of computers (literally from the first day).
<zacts>I re-taught myself the command line eventually, I can't remember the details of that.
<mark_weaver>nice! yeah, Debian has been my home for all my computers, both server and personal systems alike, for the last 15 years or so. occasionally I experiment with something else, but I always seem to come back to plain Debian.
<zacts>more recently I've been interested in Minix3 for eventually learning the basics of how OS work. I've got the minix3 book. But, I won't get into that until probably a couple of years from now or so.
<zacts>I've just skimmed parts of the book. I also got the book, because it's kind of like a classic.
<mark_weaver>yeah, Minix sounds interesting, though I've never studied it.
<zacts>and I got the design of the 4.4 BSD book for $8
<zacts>but, yeah. for now I'm way interested in emacs / guix / guile / scheme
<zacts>oh in fact I want to port chibi scheme to minix3
<mark_weaver>I suspect chibi is quite portable, so hopefully that shouldn't be too hard.
<zacts>the above book could probably apply to programming also
<zacts>and it has a comment by keith jarret (jazz pianist) recommending the book
<mark_weaver>unlike most people there, I don't do a music show though. I help mostly in technical aspects: fixing things that break, including the transmitter; and also with the news and public affairs programs.