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<jxself> http://files.jxself.org/rms30.ogv and http://files.jxself.org/rms30.webm exist now if you want a complete copy.

<jxself>I'll work to get it on audio-video.gnu.org later today.

<jxself>And it's HD. Woot.

<civodul>cool!

<civodul>i'll check the part we missed

<viric>me too

<viric>civodul: is there any non-frustrating way of writing a manpage?

<viric>I don't like troff, I don't ilke docbook, I don't like asciidoc, ...

<viric>I might try the halibut thing

<viric>I've good memories of it

*youlysses wonders how hard it'd be to rig skribilo to write manpages.

<viric>mi ne pretas lerni tiun lispaĵon, malgraŭ ties nomo ;)

<youlysses>viric: CL, Scheme, or? :^)

<viric>tiun lingvon de skribilo

<viric>I can't stand so much parentheses

<youlysses>viric: Tio estus "Guile" tiam. Wow, it feels so long since I was looking into Esperanto -- Remembering it broke my brain. :^)

<youlysses>viric: You get used to it. I first started in that mind-set, and about a week or-so exposed to it -- I feel in love with it.

<viric>:)

<viric>I always thought that all advertisements about easy debugging would pull me in

<viric>I love debugging.

<viric>but I never understood enough the advertised advantages

<davexunit>viric: can't stand parentheses? you might be in the wrong channel.

<viric>I'm waiting for something that will compensate for the parentheses

<davexunit>awesome code?

<viric>for example

<davexunit>guix?

<viric>:) no

<viric>at least, I don't understand it enough

<viric>to see what part is thanks to scheme, and what part is thanks to civodul :)

<davexunit>have you ever read any bits of SICP or the little schemer?

<davexunit>those books revealed the elegance of scheme to me.

<civodul>viric: man pages suck :-)

<viric>hm some pieces, but I don't think I understood it fully

<viric>I've more problems with info than with manpages, tbh :)

<civodul>you might have problems with the UI, but conceptually, man pages are a no-go for any non-trivial piece of software

<viric>Yes, the UI. I used tkinfo; it was more pleasant. But I agree about the limits of man pages

<viric>Now I think if I ever wrote a non-trivial piece of software. :)

<davexunit>I'm starting to learn to read info pages in emacs.

<youlysses>davexunit: Yeah, info pages are a great source of information! Syntactically though, I'm not a huge fan of texinfo -- though actual LaTex seems passable. Prior to learning about Skribilo, org-mode looks very promising to a means to exporting to info; Now I'm really looking forward to the benefits said Skribilo can/will allot. :^)

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