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<Steap>That Python thing is tricky.
<Fulax>Steap: yes, the Gentoo way of handling python modules is far from simple
<Fulax>seems a bit similar
<civodul>hey mark_weaver
<civodul>mark_weaver: i see you're on http://savannah.gnu.org/p/audio-video
<civodul>are you in a position to upload the GHM videos?
<mark_weaver>I guess I should be able to, yes :)
<civodul>aaah, great
<civodul>lemme check with Luca
<mark_weaver>and hello :)
<lucasaiu>Hello there
<civodul>hello lucasaiu :-)
<mark_weaver>civodul: I don't know for sure though. I haven't used that access in many years.
<civodul>ok
<civodul>lucasaiu: what the URL of your server already?
<lucasaiu>It's http://ageinghacker.net/ghm-scratch/videos-to-publish/
*mark_weaver looks
<lucasaiu>mark_weaver: I've followed the instructions on https://savannah.gnu.org/p/audio-video and added a Task from the Savannah interface. It's https://savannah.gnu.org/task/index.php?12796
<mark_weaver>lucasaiu: thank you! please give me a few minutes to investigate what I need to do to upload these.
<lucasaiu>Sure, thanks
<mark_weaver>It seems likely that I no longer have the necessary access to upload, despite my vestigial membership in that group. or perhaps I've simply forgotten how to do it.
<lucasaiu>mark_weaver: shall we write to somebody?
<mark_weaver>It looks like they could use some help anyway. I'll write to the sysadmins and ask to reinstate my access.
<lucasaiu>Thanks
<lucasaiu>Very kind of you
<mark_weaver>Thanks for making the videos! I've already watched most of them :)
<lucasaiu>:-)
<lucasaiu>Actually most of the work was done by the people who shot the videos
<lucasaiu>I added the initial banner :-)
<lucasaiu>So, please let me know if there's any problem
<lucasaiu>I'd like to link each video from the official GHM page when everything's done
<mark_weaver>ah, I _do_ have access :)
*mark_weaver is working on it
<lucasaiu>mark_weaver: cool :-)
<mark_weaver>I'm now downloading the files from your site.
<lucasaiu>Sometimes rediscovering an old password is like meeting an old friend again :-)
<lucasaiu>Sure, go on
<lucasaiu>In the beginning I was worried about machine load, but I saw that it's no problem
<civodul>mark_weaver: excellent :-)
<mark_weaver>:)
<mark_weaver>I found it very energizing to watch the GHM videos. Lots of exciting work being done. Maybe next year I'll ask the FSF for travel funds.
<civodul>indeed, you should!
<lucasaiu>mark_weaver: Thanks
<lucasaiu>Yes, I had the same sensation as well. It's very motivating to see that people are energetic about their GNU work.
<mark_weaver>I'm currently uploading the videos. You should already be able to see some of them here: http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/ghm2013/
<lucasaiu>Indeed.
<lucasaiu>So you're just rsync'ing me from my server
<mark_weaver>basically, yes.
<lucasaiu>If you do that without renaming files, it will be particularly easy to add links
<lucasaiu>Great
<mark_weaver>I won't rename anything.
<lucasaiu>Cool
<lucasaiu>Do we need an index.html?
<lucasaiu>Actually it's not really necessary, but it might look good
<lucasaiu>We can write that if you want.
<lucasaiu>But it's less urgent
<mark_weaver>If you wanted to write up the HTML, that would be helpful :)
<lucasaiu>Ok, I will
<mark_weaver>thanks!
<lucasaiu>Please remind me in case I forget
<mark_weaver>I certainly agree that we should have an index.html, as well as a pointer to it from the main audio-video page.
<mark_weaver>preferably with links to the slides as well.
<lucasaiu>If I understand correctly, audio-video is separate from www; so it doesn't use the same HTML templates
<lucasaiu>(of course, I'll add links; there will be a little information duplication, but this information is "stable" so I don't think it's serious)
<mark_weaver>lucasaiu: if you request membership to the audio-video group on savannah, I'd be glad to give you access.
<lucasaiu>Oh, ok
<lucasaiu>So is it managed via CVS, like the rest of gnu.org?
<lucasaiu>My username on Savannah is "positrone", with a final E. I was young and naïf :-).
<mark_weaver>I can see that the web pages are managed via CVS. I haven't looked at the GNU web servers in the while, so I don't know what the current practices are.
<mark_weaver>but I suppose you could use one of the earlier GHM pages there as a guide.
<mark_weaver>lucasaiu: okay, you should have access now.
<mark_weaver>lucasaiu: here's what to do: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:positrone@cvs.savannah.gnu.org:/web/audio-video co .
<lucasaiu>Thanks
<lucasaiu>Ok, this isn't written anywhere, so it's important
<lucasaiu>Let me copy it somewhere stable
<mark_weaver>yes, it was not as easy to figure out on savannah as I'd like.
<mark_weaver>also, the top-level "Readme" file in that CVS repository explains how to upload the media files (using rsync)
<lucasaiu>Got it
<lucasaiu>Ok
<lucasaiu>I don't plan to do anything "traumatic", anyway
<mark_weaver>that's good :)
<lucasaiu>Not before asking :-)
<lucasaiu>I also subscribed to the mailing list
<lucasaiu>But I won't do the real work now :-)
<lucasaiu>Soon, however :-)
<lucasaiu>Feel free to ping me
<mark_weaver>sounds good, thanks!
<lucasaiu>Thank you :-)
<mark_weaver>lucasaiu: btw, in case it wasn't clear: I finished downloading the files from you long ago, so you could remove the files from your server.
<lucasaiu>Thanks
<lucasaiu>I'm announcing the new address
<mark_weaver>(still uploading; I have a slow uplink here)
<mark_weaver>
<lucasaiu>Ok