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<Fulax>well, the documentation says that guile-2.0.7.tar.xz is part of the source distribution

*Fulax is confused

*Fulax hates when running 'make'

<Fulax>downloads things on the internet

<gazoombo>hi, I'm going to have to duck out shortly, but I thought I'd pose this question first: can guix be successfully bootstrapted from Debian Wheezy (stable) without additional experimental packages?

<gazoombo>right now I'm getting this when running ./bootstrap from git HEAD: ...

<gazoombo>configure.ac:9: require Automake 1.12, but have 1.11.6

<gazoombo>autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1

<mark_weaver>if you build from the 0.3 tarball, you don't need automake

<mark_weaver>yes, you should be able to build the tarball on wheezy without any experimental packages.

<mark_weaver>alternatively, you can install automake from experimental.

<mark_weaver>(which I did on my wheezy system, and it's very unobtrusive)

<civodul>Hello Guix!

<Steap>Hey Guix!

<civodul>hey hey!

<civodul>Guix on TV: http://www.irill.org/videos/GNU_Hackers_Meeting_2013/Ludovic_Courtes-GNU_Guix_the_computing_freedom_deployment_tool.webm

<civodul>damn, i keep making typos in emails

<Steap>Meta-X fix-typos

*Fulax watches the video linked by civodul a few hours ago

<civodul>heh

<mark_weaver>civodul: I watched your presentation on Guix. Am I right in assuming that your queries about 'syntax-session-id' are about trying to ensure that builds are always bit-for-bit identical, as opposed to "almost" identical?

<mark_weaver>I've been thinking it over some more, and when compiling normal guile modules, it should be sufficient to use a 'syntax-session-id' that's derived from the module name.

<mark_weaver>where it gets trickier is when something's being compiled that not a normal module.

<civodul>mark_weaver: yes, that's the "fixed point project"

<civodul>:-)

<civodul>i was thinking something along these lines, but i haven't taken the time to investigate

<mark_weaver>I do think that's extremely important.

<civodul>yep

<civodul>it is

<civodul>(and it turns out to be in fashion, it seems)

<mark_weaver>not surprising, given the relevations of edward snowden.

<mark_weaver>well, I'll make a serious effort to find the best solution we can.

<civodul>great, thank you

<mark_weaver>the really hard part is what to do when something like "primitive-eval" is called.

<civodul>in that case we can always resort to a random thing

<civodul>that won't end up in .go files, so that's OK anyway

<mark_weaver>*nod*

<mark_weaver>what about 'load'? do you think that's likely to be a problem as well?

<civodul>'load' calls 'compile-file', right?

<civodul>well

<civodul>i guess the issue is what to do when the current module is the-scm-module

<civodul>"Avoid functional combinators" says Riastradh in http://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/style.txt

<civodul>i'll have to disagree on that one ;-)

<civodul>anyway, g'night/day!

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