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<civodul>Hello Guixers!

<civodul>'lo CaptainLex!

*civodul is fine

<CaptainLex>Sadly I have end-of-semester school that is distracting me from debugging Guix, so I am submitting my proposal now while I have the time

*CaptainLex is glad to hear it :)

<civodul>good

<CaptainLex>Submitted!

<civodul>great!

<civodul>did you post the URL somewhere?

<CaptainLex>I didn't! I shal

<CaptainLex>shall*

<civodul>yes

<civodul>how far did you go installing & using Guix?

<civodul>it would be nice to achieve some success before trying to go further ;-)

<CaptainLex> https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/captainlexington/1

<CaptainLex>This is the link

<CaptainLex>Should I put on the guix-bugs?

<civodul>yes, would be great

<civodul>well, it's not public

<CaptainLex>Woooops

<CaptainLex>I'll look for the public URL

<civodul>ok

<CaptainLex>but I have to goooo right now

<CaptainLex>I'll post it tonight!

<CaptainLex|AFK>Hmm

<CaptainLex|AFK>civodul: Can you try the link again?

<mark_weaver>I can see your proposal now.

<CaptainLex|AFK>Awesomesauce

<mark_weaver>Heh, I can sympathize with the frustration of not being able to join most projects because they use languages that I don't like :-/

<mark_weaver>I suppose that's why I'm working on Guile and Guix as well :)

<civodul>CaptainLex|AFK: works for me too

<CaptainLex|AFK>Excellent!

<civodul>good that you mention systemd ;-)

<CaptainLex|AFK>Haha Steap warned me you didn't like it :P

<civodul>heh

<bubu^>next step will be to propose a kernel flavor :)

<bubu^>Guix/Hurd would be cool :D

<CaptainLex|AFK>Okay, cats, that's it for me

<CaptainLex|AFK>I'm AFK for realzies again

<CaptainLex|AFK>Catch you later! :D

<civodul>bubu^: that's part of the plan, but only as one of 2 or 3 options

<bubu^>what are the other options ?

<bubu^>for the far term

<civodul>Linux-Libre and kFreeBSD

<bubu^>the thing is I suspect linux will be a microkernel before the hurd is complete :(

<civodul>not sure ;-)

<bubu^>there is such a big different of pace

<civodul>yeah

<bubu^>and the linux guys are trying to put much more things in userspace now

<civodul>OTOH pace is nothing without guile

<bubu^>:)

<bubu^>but the thing is you could arrive to the point that in 10 years linux would become a micro kernel

<civodul>seems unlikely

<bubu^>and theory would have been proven right, but taking the long and hard path of the reality

<bubu^>theory never lies :)

<bubu^>if by design micro kernels are better, one day it will proven so :)

<civodul>well, there's QNX...

<bubu^>but you have two path, try to build a solution for the theory which seems quite hard to implement

<bubu^>or reject it and be confronted to lots of struggling

<bubu^>and step by step by fixing the issues

<bubu^>you end up proving it

<civodul>well, the Hurd is not theoritical either

<bubu^>yes that's right

<bubu^>but still, design seems way better to me

<bubu^>and seems that in practice it is

<bubu^>but it's hard to grasp (at least it's not as intuitive)

<civodul>not as intuitive as what?

<bubu^>as putting everything in the same directory and brutaly linking all the source files :)

<civodul>ah :-)

<bubu^>(i'm a bit exagerating the facts)

<civodul>i actually find it much easier to understand

<civodul>maybe i'm biased, but still

<bubu^>because you are trained for order and logics :)

<civodul>heh

<civodul>the .defs at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/tree/hurd quickly make sense, IMO

<bubu^>:)

<bubu^>time for some sleep

<civodul>Steap: i don't get what the Python packaging article you linked to adds to the table :-)

<civodul>seems like "python setup.py" is standard

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