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<ashmew2>hello
<CaptainLex>Oh no I have competition! :O
<CaptainLex>ashmew2: Hello!
<Steap>Hello Guixers!
<civodul>Hello Guixers!
<ashmew2>hello everyone :)
<ashmew2>Looking for Guix as a GSOC Project.
<ashmew2>it seems interesting. :D
<civodul>good :-)
<civodul>which project idea do you find interesting?
<ashmew2>i like the package management through emacs ,civodul
<civodul>ah, excellent :-)
<ashmew2>also working on integratieng a desktop environment like Fluxbox seems like a decent deal.
<civodul>Fluxbox is just a WM, so it should be quite easy
<civodul>i don't want to discuss much right now because i'm at work
<ashmew2>yeah , big guns like Gnome/KDE/LXDE should be more challenging :P
<ashmew2>oh alright
<civodul>would you like to send a proposal, etc. on the list?
<ashmew2>i also posted on the bug mailing list for guix.
<civodul>ah ok
<civodul>i'll look into it later today then
<civodul>perfect :-)
<ashmew2>civodul, but its only a avery rough draft till now. I wanna get involved with open source, i love emacs XD
<civodul>ok
<civodul>what experience do you have with Emacs, and Scheme?
<ashmew2>civodul, ive been using GNU/Linux as a primary OS for a few years now, Emacs ive been using for a year almost. I try to do everything with emacs, from text editing to editing Hex Bytes of image files at times.
<ashmew2>i have no prior experience with Lisp or its dialects, but i have a couple of years on C/C++/Qt/Gtk
<civodul>ok, great
<ashmew2>i can learn if the need arises, i want to learn.
<civodul>you'd have to ;-)
<ashmew2>yes! :D
<ashmew2>ive always been interested in programming for open source, just college and all here are very time intensive. But if i get into an internship program i can actually devote 40-45 hours a week
<ashmew2>and GSOC means just that.
<civodul>ok :-)
<ashmew2>ive downloaded thel Guix tarbal
<ashmew2>the Guix tarball*
<civodul>you can give it a try and report any problems
<ashmew2>alright, ill try doing that
<CaptainLex>Morning Guiks!
<civodul>hey, morning CaptainLex
<CaptainLex>Morning civodul!
<CaptainLex>School time!
*CaptainLex points at CaptainLex|AFK
<CaptainLex>Imposter! :O
<civodul>:-)
<CaptainLex>civodul: I have a question about guix philosophy, by the way!
<civodul>go ahead
<CaptainLex>Is per-user package installation and user-permission level capabilities a special feature that is for some reason off-limits (or more difficult) for package managers operating in an imperative style, or is it an unrelated decision?
<CaptainLex>(This counts as a nix question too, I suppose!0
<CaptainLex>)*
<CaptainLex>Hello ashmew2!
<civodul>CaptainLex: per-user package installation comes as a bonus, so to speak
<civodul>a side effect of the whole architecture
<civodul>there are good papers at nixos.org about the inception of all this
<CaptainLex>civodul: I see. Well, I'm a fan. But I must ask: doesn't storage space become a serious issue? Or is the responsible user expected to run gc when they determine the platform is stable?
<civodul>not an issue, especially since there's automatic "deduplication"
<civodul>so if you have 5 variants of glibc sharing half of the files, you don't pay that much
<civodul>i'll be back later
<CaptainLex>Farewell
<CaptainLex>!