<civodul>zimoun: i sympathize with the frustration! (and with the enthusiasm for reproducibility :-))
<civodul>i feel like there's a window these days for explaining our vision
<civodul>there's a lot of hype around the empy "open science" word, but there's also honest interest in understanding failures and improving things
<zimoun>maybe software reproducibility is a solved problem (or let assume that), but the implementation is not solved. One of the key point is teaching what is the problem and how to solve it. Because journals are niche, where does this “teach” happen?
<civodul>yes, or dedicated workshops like the one rekado_ & i went to in 2015 (time flies!)
<civodul>i think that's how it works in general: "fresh ideas" first mature in workshops and eventually become commonplace
<zimoun>for instance, we with MDs wrote a short stuff targetting broad audience of other MDs or impatient biologists about “what is a computational environment”. It is a pillar but never in the niche of the journal. Or it can be published in a specialized journal focusing this topic but not read by MDs or impatient biologists. Therefre, how to speak to this broad audience?
<zimoun>civodul: ahah! let mimick ’module’ cli. :-) Now, I understand your question from yesterday. ;-)
<zimoun>do you have examples about arguments by «researchers working in linear algebra» for ’module’?
<zimoun>because IIRC, it is only by habits. Typing “module load foo” instead of “guix shell foo” (or similar).
<zimoun>In 2019, to ease to teach Guix to some users here, I planned to write a transparent “wrapper“: type ‘module load foo’ but under the hood run ‘guix environment --ad-hoc foo’ but extensions was not around. And then I thought it was useless. :-)
<zimoun>civodul, well I do not know if you will read that. The ’module’ file points to a store item. Is this item protected from GC?
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<civodul>zimoun: re "modules", i still need to add GC root registration indeed
<zimoun>civodul: do not. User of modules should have the same experience as their usual ‘mdoules’ habits: broken. :-P