<zimoun>I challenge the angry person to pick a random package from conda-forge and then rebuild all from source. For instance, a random package at version from last year.
<zimoun>civodul: long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I spent countless hours to package a complex C++ scientific software for Conda <https://github.com/zimoun/bempp-conda>. Just build from source on my laptop (Debian) and on the cluster (Ubuntu LTS 14 at the time), and get something “similar”, it was sweat, pain and workarounds.
<zimoun>Well, saying that «opaque binaries [...] lacking reproducible build methodology and tooling» is full true! It is by design of Conda
<zimoun>However, indeed «no signs […] of moving in that direction» is half-true because conda-forge tries to dead-end-y improve… arf!
<zimoun>I do not speak about reproducibility. Simply rebuild at other point in time on another machine. Maybe if first you get a Docker image based on Debian, then inside you run the recipe from conda-forge ;-)