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<drakonis>so, i started writing my guix vs nix post and i feel like i might end slamming nix pretty hard

<drakonis>civodul: so i have actually started writing the post and i think i might be slamming nix a bit too much

<civodul>drakonis: hi! heh, slamming is not fruitful IMO

<civodul>and not necessary either

<dstolfa>agreed, imo it would be best to acknowledge its contributions, talk about its limitations and reasoning for guix

<dstolfa>without nix there would likely be no guix, so...

<dstolfa>nix pioneered a lot of great things

<drakonis>its that i'm not aiming to do it but it comes across as such

<dstolfa>drakonis: well, it's a good exercise! :)

<drakonis>indeed it is

<drakonis>a lot of the things that guix has as a core driving principle are merely incipient on the nix side and are driven by a small crowd

<drakonis>so its never going to stick

<civodul>i see what you mean

<civodul>i think the way to frame it is that the two projects have different goals and priorities

<civodul>people who like one may be disappointed that the other one has other priorities :-)

<drakonis>hah, there are even a few of nix's folks on guix's channel

<drakonis>i've already framed it as such but talking about nix having such things is where it comes across as such

<drakonis>writing is hard

<civodul>thanks to rekado_'s suggestions in particular

<civodul>(i tend to be harsh towards pip & conda actually, but i think these pieces of software and associated workflows deserve it :-))

<dstolfa>civodul: i don't read it as harsh, i read it as just stating the facts that people like to ignore

<dstolfa>that is to say... simply saying your software does one thing does not make it so :)

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