<rekado>so far there was no feedback on the DRMAA branch
<rekado>so I guess I’ll just clean it up and merge it.
<zimoun>ah, talking about guile-drmaa, I had a discussion with Yann from CCIPL (Nantes) using Guix on their cluster. And an potential user of guile-drmaa should be Cuirass… but not on the list of mothacehe’s stuff, yet. :-)
<zimoun>I had not had the time to checkout out the branch and test it.
<civodul>they don't even get to see parens, how sad!
<PurpleSym>They don’t even know they’re using GNU Linux ;)
<PurpleSym>Seriously though, the UI is being used to teach students and there’s an upcoming workshop. But we’re simply on a different level here, trying to convince people to use R instead of some proprietary statistics tool.
<zimoun>PurpleSym, here it is the same. I had to explain with details why SAS is not an option; for a better or a worse, the only argument which had “worked” was money: who will pay the license? :-)
<rekado>I’ve seen a number of people abandon Guix as soon as it became inconvenient
<zimoun>for instance, I would like to setup something as your solution. But I am running out of time. Therefore, I would be an attendee for a training, not about using it but about help in setuping. :-)
<rekado>e.g. some tool is provided via Conda and the developers of that tool recommend Conda
<rekado>on the other hand: one of my colleagues has finally decided to go all in with Guix
<PurpleSym>zimoun: Yep, money is pretty much the only argument to use R here too. Free software? Nobody cares.
<rekado>this is the result of years of sharing Guix blog posts, demonstrating reproducibility benefits, and a couple of comments about “solved problem” whenever an R upgrade would wreck their projects.
<rekado>we’re working on a new PiGx pipeline, and this time every developer uses Guix (we have a manifest with inferiors to all have the exact same environment).
<zimoun>yes, I agre. On wednesday, explaining Guix a colleague said me, «I need more flexibility at the R level» and I said, yeah something exists but I was unable to reach guix.install. Well, I agree that “bridge” are missing to better fit how people concretly works.
<rekado>civodul: one of the biggest problems in my experience is the glibc ABI incompatibility. There doesn’t seem to be much we can do about it.
<rekado>zimoun: I want to add it to our r-minimal package.
<rekado>bold move, but … that’s the best place for it, I think.
<zimoun>And this same colleague installed Guix on RedHat… then “guix import cran -a bioconductor” failed (leading to a discussion on #guix about certificates ;-)), then “guix install nss-certs” failed requiring --fallback, then even with it is still failing for mysterious reasons I had solved yet. Well, if I am not at the next door, then they abandon Guix.
<rekado>I often find myself posting the Application Setup URL
<rekado>perhaps there’s something we could automate.