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<janneke>is there a way to debug recursive module imports, other than studying/guessing? <janneke>ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception: <janneke>edi/parse/session.scm:103:15: set-fields: unknown getter in subform file-tree of (set-field file (file-tree) tree) <janneke>meaning, as i read it: you have a recursive module import, and thus srfi-9 gnu somehow breaks <old>janneke: out of the box no. but you could hack boot-9 or modules.c to print module loading I think <old>e.g., you can change the primite-load-path core binding <old>from there you can print what's getting load. But that's pretty much it <old>you can always catch exception while loading certain file and enter a REPL if you would like <mwette>: a dictionary of module to dependendies <futurile>Q: hi hi does anyone know if you can use plain HTML in Haunt markdown posts? <futurile>I can see that the Guix version of Haunt has a specific version of guile-commonmark, but I can't figure out if I should be able to intermingle markdown/html or whether I need to use sxml <old>so, I wonder if we would like a helper like this: (debug-repl some-value) <old>which launch a REPL with the value passed to debug-repl bind to some known name <old>I often find myself wanting to debug some complex object and having a repl spawn at the right moment seems like a good way <dthompson>futurile: yes you can use html in markdown but I haven't made a new haunt release that makes this automatic. <dthompson>guix does indeed use a fork of guile-commonmark, spritely's fork. this has become the new official home of guile-commonmark because the original maintainer has not responded in years (hope they're okay) <mwette>old: you mean you have (debug-repl value) in your code somewhere and when it hits that you enter the debug repl? <old>just like pk or pke but repl smart <futurile>dthompson: OK, if I rebuild Haunt using the lastest guile-commonmark from spritely-fork will that automagically get it? <dthompson>futurile: no, but if you build haunt from the latest commit in master that should do the trick. <futurile>dthompson: OK, thanks, I'll try that out. You likely to do a new Haunt release soon (just curious)? <old>mwette: I want someting in core Guile I think ;;) <old>RELP experience needs to be improve in general <old>and would like a genral purpose debugger for sure <dthompson>futurile: I should but I haven't had much time for personal projects <mwette>old: The big want for me is to complete the debugging support. I spent a lot of hours on that and didn't get far. There is a lot to understand. <mwette>The compiler should have a "debug" option to, for example, not reuse slots for multiple variables; things like that. <janneke>thanks all, /me found it; self-inflicted, really silly <rlb>janneke: next time, if having the file ordering would help, there's also strace, of course. Sometimes that's enough... <old>mwette: I want to add that also. Register allocations to not optimize away values <mwette>(but never got fully working; not submitted) <mwette>Also, did you know chicken scheme has `declare'? <futurile>dthompson: yeah that worked, that's great <ekaitz>dthompson: any ETA for the release? <ekaitz>ACTION as a basque always feels weird saying it that way <dthompson>I just need to do it but I don't know when I'll get to it <ekaitz>i'm not in hurry anyway, but i'll probably migrate my site to haunt soon <old>mwette: never used chicken. But I want to add declare to Guile also <mwette>I have not either, and I saw your mention of that. That's why I brought it up. <mwette>edit: mention of that a few days ago