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<daviid>old: you should use #:init-thunk, not #:init-value <daviid>#:init-thunk (lambda () (my-param)), which will be called when a new instance is created <daviid>old: actually it can be #:init-thunk my-param <daviid>with a typo line 8, set-bar, not seet-bar <old>daviid: the problem is not around make <old>the problem is around define <old>anyway, I found a workaround that suite me better so that's okay :-) <daviid>i don't get what the problem is, but you solved it so ... fine <daviid>the important thing is, #:init-value is only for fixed value, and it is cached by goops, when you need the value to be the result of a call, use #:init-thunk or #:init-form <daviid>and fwiw, if you think you need a syntax to fix 'a goops problem', chances are that there is a better way, using a simple goops approach (as above) or the mop ... my 2c <old>I think the issue comes down to not being able to do: (parameterize ((...)) (define ...) ...) <old>I can remove goops from the picture to make it more clear <daviid>that i dont know, i don't use none top level define, never ever <old>I could ofc just do the parameterize inside the define, but that's cumbersome when ahving multiple defines <old>anyway, I think that's just the syntax limit of define in Scheme <ekaitz>wingo: i have a very stupid question about the JIT threshold <ekaitz>and the threshold is the limit before JIT-ing <ekaitz>why does it fail in my case for 9 and not for 8? <ekaitz>wouldn't 9 mean less functions are JIT-ed? <ekaitz>i just need to compare the vcode with the mcode now <morenonatural>is there something like emacs' (ignore some-var-I-do-not-use) for guile? I'd like to avoid warnings <morenonatural>or other way to deal with explicitly ignored variables in match-lambda <civodul>morenonatural: there’s no nice way, although you could simply refer to the variable, even if you don’t use it <civodul>as in (match x ((dontcare x) dontcare (+ x 2))) <civodul>which silences the unused-variable warning for ‘dontcare’ without changing the generated code <ekaitz>civodul: can i disassemble a .go file? <civodul>ekaitz: yes: ‘guild disassemble x.go’ <ekaitz>and if it's only a piece? i'd like to disassemble between two memory addresses... <civodul>if you’re into optimizations, “,compile” and “,compile-cps” at the REPL are often more useful (because higher-level) <ekaitz>i have a function that is jit-ed <ekaitz>and i want to see what was that function before <civodul>‘guild disassemble’ only does whole-file disassembly, but then the API prolly lets you disassemble only part <ekaitz>the only thing I have the vcode of the function <civodul>so you’d like to disassemble native code (JIT’ed) and map it back to the original bytecode? <ekaitz>no, i want to disassemble the virtual machine code <ekaitz>to compare it more easily to the JIT-ed code <ekaitz>what I have right now is the raw memory of both <ekaitz>oh also I'm using my PEG reimplementation to parse Zig code and it works with a HUGE and pretty complex peg file <civodul>oh, i should check your updated patches i guess? <ekaitz>civodul: last time I sent a new version because I found a couple of bugs, but now i'm pretty confident <ekaitz>civodul: no pressure anyway, thanks for the help <ekaitz>ACTION runs away but will read later <morenonatural>does guile have thousand separator? (Python & Julia has thousand separator, if you don't know what that is) <dsmith>scheme@(guile-user)> (format #t "~:d\n" 2000000) <singpolyma>Syntax for thousands separators might be the weirdest bad idea I've ever seen in a language syntax <dsmith>I like it. I've currently got a config file (JSON) with a 20 minute timeout in microseconds! 1200000000 Ugh. <dsmith>I'd rather it be in seconds, but there is a lot of ceremony to change it. <k4r4b3y>I am trying to learn guile scheme using the guile packages from debian 12 repos <k4r4b3y>especially I have installed: emacs/bookworm-backports guile-3.0 guile-3.0-dev elpa-geiser <k4r4b3y>however, I am unable to get the guile scheme code buffer talk to the geiser repl <k4r4b3y>I cannot get the geiser-eval-definition command have affect <k4r4b3y>I can run that command, but nothing happens <k4r4b3y>in the repl buffer, I can't reach the definitions that I just tried eval'ing <morenonatural>you may want to uninstall elpa-geiser and install (the same) geiser in Emacs <k4r4b3y>morenonatural: what's the current version of geiser? <k4r4b3y>I would like to use packages from debian's stable repos <k4r4b3y>I would like to believe that they work, since they got packaged <morenonatural>that you can do, although it will add some friction to solving your problem since using Emacs packages (versions) from debian is not a common custom <k4r4b3y>I will try to repeat my question in #debian room