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<lechner>mwette / thanks!
<lechner>mwette / are you using scheme-bytestructures 1 or 2?
<lechner>2.0.2 is imminent i believe
<mwette>Is bs version documented in the installed code anywhere?
<mwette>gotta go ...
<sneek>Welcome back dsmith!
<dsmith>sneek, botsnack
<sneek>:)
<dsmith>!uptime
<sneek>I've been faithfully serving for 2 months
<sneek>This system has been up 12 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 32 minutes
<graywolf>Hello, when making a project in guile using autotools with native extension, should the scheme wrapped loading temporarily adjust guile-extension-path (ensuring it loads)? Or is it customary to leave that to the end user / system (using for example guile -x or GUILE_EXTENSION_PATH)?
<robin>looking for a paper: on understanding the relative "expressiveness" of PLs in terms of macro-expressibility vs. global rewriting or something along those lines. written by a well-known schemer iirc. i have a copy but can't find it
<robin>oooh "Mitchell Wand and Daniel P. Friedman. 1988. The mystery of the tower revealed: A non-reflective description of the reflective tower."
<robin>i knew of this idea but not the actual paper
<robin>found it: felleisen, "On the Expressive Power of Programming Languages", https://felleisen.org/matthias/papers.html#scp91-felleisen