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<ArneBab>apteryx: you can write a macro that quotes the object. But this just returns what you already knew at compiletime.
<rlb>Hmm, should "gdb guile" normally work? I ask because I just saw a debian bug report, and I see the same thing. With current debian gdb/guile/libgc, running "gdb guile" and then issuing a "run" causes an immediate segfault in libgc:
<rlb> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
<rlb> 0x00007ffff7c10eca in GC_find_limit_with_bound () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgc.so.1
<rlb>
<rlb>(current meaning more or less "testing")
<rlb> https://bugs.debian.org/1016630
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<unmatched-paren>Interesting, looks like my configure script accidentally found a bug in dash :P
<unmatched-paren>mksh $ command -v guile >&- -> okay
<unmatched-paren>dash $ command -v guile >&- -> command: command: I/O error
<unmatched-paren>zsh and bash accept it too.
*unmatched-paren going to check if mrsh accepts it
<unmatched-paren>Yes, mrsh works with it too.
<unmatched-paren>Interesting, I guess I really have o
<unmatched-paren>*found a bug in dash.
<alextee[m]>is it possible to use guile on windows without msys?
<unmatched-paren>Hmm. The dash mailing list rejected my email :(
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<mwette>rlb: I've been running into that on ubuntu. I just continue and all works ok. I did read that the behavior is intentional.
<mwette>It's a gdb thing and not a guile thing.
<mwette>Oh, not gdb, I think the gc.
<mwette>here: https://hboehm.info/gc/debugging.html
<mwette> https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/issues/11589
<dsmith-work>UGT Greetings, Guilers
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<gnucode>wingo_: May I request that you make a blog post detailing the current status of guile-emacs? I appreciate all that you have done for pushing guile forward too!
<unmatched-paren>gnucode: I believe guile-emacs is basically dead. Might be wrong, but all i've heard about it is "it was a GSoC project that's now over and nobody's continuing it"
<dsmith-work>Not quite dead. There has been some work since the GSoC.
<dsmith-work>But it is a single individual, and the Emacs folks are heading in a different direction.
<dsmith-work>sneek: guile-emacs?
<sneek>Last time I checked guile-emacs is http://git.hcoop.net/?p=bpt/emacs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wip-bdw-gc
<unmatched-paren>"2015-02-09"
<dsmith-work>Ya, that's pretty old.
<dsmith-work>ISTR some talk here about updates about a year ago.
<ArneBab>unmatched-paren: I see two updates from this year in wip: http://git.hcoop.net/bpt/emacs.git
<dsmith-work>Hey. That's from about a month ago.
<ArneBab>yes :-)
<dsmith-work>So. Not quite dead.
<dsmith-work>A common pattern is furious activty while a person is in school. Then comes a real job, marriage, kids, house, etc. Guile ends up *very* low on the priority list..
<ArneBab>sneek: later tell gnucode: guile-emacs worked, but it was too slow, because it was still missing support for byte-compiled files.
<sneek>Okay.
<ArneBab>dsmith-work: yes, I know that pattern :-) — I’m glad that I am managing to keep working on wisp even though I’m in full-time software engineering employment now (and no longer doing a PhD)
<ArneBab>It looks like guile-emacs doesn’t build right now. See guix shell guile-emacs -- guile-emacs -Q
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