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<lilyp>stis: re tex solving math stuff, the problem there is that you'd need to prerender the formulae in tex and generate images from them for the web
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<sneek>tohoyn: Greetings :)
<wingo>sneek: later tell civodul yeah i think it makes sense! there are also some other pending lightning merges i should get to. what is your 3.0.9 release timeline?
<wingo>and how will we be able to test the lightning code?
<wingo>besides the tests in lightning itself with qemu. i mean, does anyone have the hardware and ability to troubleshoot in case things go wrong
<manumanumanu>wingo: regarding 3.0.9: I wrote a not so serious patch that changed cond, case, when, unless, and do to use let to get (define ...) in expr context also in those. I am not sure that is a path you and civodul find nice, but the cond and case ones are sometimes annoying. The main question is whether r6rs/r7rs should keep the old limited one if the changes are of interest.
<manumanumanu>(not so serious in that it didn't do any documentation changes).
<wingo>manumanumanu: fwiw i think it is a good direction, would like to hear from civodul tho
<manumanumanu>I could take it upon me to make a serious patch in july when I return with my family from portugal
<wingo>sure thing :)
<manumanumanu>the change has basically no bad side-effects: a (let () ...) without internal definitions is turned into a begin by the source->source optimization pass
<wingo>yep
<manumanumanu>The critical thing for me is: should I make r6rs cond conform to r6rs?
<wingo>for the r6rs module export, probably yes
<wingo>do you write r6rs modules, mainly?
<manumanumanu>wingo: never :) The current r6rs export is the guile one, which (like the one proposed with internal definitions) is a a superset of the one specified in r6rs. The options are, in my opinion: 1) make the r6rs one strictly r6rs and document it. 2) Just export the guile version and document the differences in the r6rs docs.
<manumanumanu>1 feels more wholesome.
<wingo>manumanumanu: (1) sgtm to me too :)
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<dsmith-work>Wednesday Greetings, Guilers
<dsmith-work>wingo: While you are at it, please consider the patch(es) from RhodiumToad for FreeBSD support.
<dsmith-work>!uptime
<sneek>I've been running for 9 days
<sneek>This system has been up 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 17 minutes
<stis>Hello guilers!
<stis>Hmm today I will blog about the new hastbale investigation I did
<stis>hashtable
<stis> 'http://itampe.com/hash-tables.html
<stis>as promossed!
<stis>enjoy
<tricon>stis: thank ya. will give it a read.
<stis>:)
<lilyp>stis: pushed to C only as guile matures?
<stis>yes: we do not have the ops in the jit engin that enables this yet.
<stis>lilyp: ^^
<stis>this is a good mifle ground
<stis>middle
<stis>enaböes the best of both worlds
<stis>enables
<stis>oh, shall pe pushed to scheme as guile matures
<stis>sorry, will fix!
<stis>now fixed! Thanks!
<stis>lilyp: ^^
<dsmith-work>stis: Hah! You are probably the only person with worse keyboarding skills than me! ;^}
<gabber>how can i change a value on a stack frame in the debugger? i've tried set! and afaics there's no explicit mention in the docs
<stis>I could not see what I write, I finally manage to configure conversatoin so that I can see the text I write
<stis>but I have a problem with text.
<stis>goes in the family
<stis>dsmith-work: ^^
<stis>I have baught me a 700$ pair of glasses that has improved my sight a lot
<stis>I have had serious issues with working on the computer before that, many bugs due to not beein able to see small text
<stis>expensive though. And no help from the company as I dod not want treminal glasses, but one that fit's al situations.
<stis> http://itampe.com/klein-gordon-and-the-bohr-model.html
<stis>if you want to know why the bohr model was so successful. Hard math though, but not terrible hard.
<stis>shows off tables and math using mathjax in markdown
<stis>I basically took a tex file and translated it to markdown for pelican that has math enabled
<stis>looks really nice if you ask me
<stis>I'm a math junkie as well lol
<stis>the tables needed some love though,if you want help to do tables let me know