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<rlb>guile 3.0.7 uploaded to debian bookworm - should be available in a while, assuming it makes it through the plumbing (e.g. https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=guile-3.0)

<rlb>I also included the syntax #nil-related syntax expansion fix.

<dsmith>rlb: Hey! Just installed bullseye the other day. Getting that one memory failure. It's a libgc thing, right?

<dsmith>rlb: (installing 3.0.7 from tarball, or from git main)

<ArneBab>rlb: very cool — thank you!

<ArneBab>There are now at 10 points in the "10x better at something"-article to Guile: https://www.draketo.de/software/guile-10x — what’s your 10x-better reason? (I can still merge points to stay at 10 points :-) )

<ArneBab>(and the points now have stable anchors)

<rlb>dsmith: hmm, the gc issue should be gone in both bullseye and buster, i.e. I patched the former and the latter should default to not using libgc for gmp allocation, I thought?

<rlb>ArneBab: language tower and effective syntax extensions (define-syntax, etc.) - without that, lokke might well not exist (such as it is), at least not by now.

<drakonis>ArneBab: is the source for the python to guile book still up somewhere?

<drakonis>bitbucket, pardon me, kicked the bucket a while back

<drakonis>and what i could find, was outdated

<ArneBab>drakonis: I hope it’s up, yes — if not I’ll fix that :-)

<ArneBab>drakonis: it is here now: https://hg.sr.ht/~arnebab/py2guile

<ArneBab>rlb: that’s a great point — I’m including it in hackability. Thank you!

***snicf is now known as t3hyoshi

<dsmith>rlb: It's test-out-of-memory that fails.

<dsmith>rlb: Seems same as https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=969707 and https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-guile/2021-01/msg00001.html

<dsmith>rlb: Did you patch the Debian package or the guile repo?

<flatwhatson>it's actually a bug in bdwgc: https://github.com/ivmai/bdwgc/issues/353

<flatwhatson>in guix it's fixed by building guile against a libgc built with --disable-munmap

<flatwhatson>basically there's a bug in the munmap handling, and in libgc7 it was disabled by default, but in libgc8 it got enabled by default and we start seeing failures

<flatwhatson> https://issues.guix.gnu.org/40525

<dsmith>flatwhatson: Ahh! Thanks. I did STR something about munmap a while back.

<dsmith>So definitly a bug in libgc 8

<dsmith>flatwhatson: Thanks again: https://github.com/ivmai/bdwgc/issues/353

<rlb>dsmith: ahh - right, might be patch 5: https://salsa.debian.org/rlb/deb-guile/-/tree/deb/guile-3.0/d/sid/master/debian/patches

<rlb>buildd results for 3.0.7: https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=guile-3.0 All the release architectures were fine, and I'm not sure if we expect any of the others that failed to work right now.

<hendursaga>What's the location of the Guile configuration file, that follows the XDG spec? $HOME/.config/guile/...?

<ft>No such thing. It's a file called ~/.guile

<noa>hendursaga: alternatively try -l

<hendursaga>It feels weird Guile doesn't follow XDG.. oh well.

<noa>im sad about it, but it doesnt surprise me

<noa>i have so many wrapper scripts in ~/bin that its just another

<leoprikler>tbf patching guile to read from $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/guile/init.scm would probably be simple if it was just Linux, but have ya thought about Windows? :P

<dsmith>hendursaga: Well guile probably had .guile about 20 years so before there was an XDG...

<dsmith>s/years so/years or so.

<daviid>sneek: later tell hendursaga guile also reads, if it exists, $prefix/share/guile/site/init.scm

<sneek>Will do.

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