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<dsmith>sneek: botsnack

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<daviid>as savannah uses cgit, which does not render image files, i've updated g-golf's web-site 'learn' page, so now it briefly describes and shows a screenshot for each example that comeswith g-golf ... https://www.gnu.org/software/g-golf/learn.html

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<vijaymarupudi>g-golf looks interesting!

<vijaymarupudi>looking forward to following it's development

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<wingo>moin :)

<MysteriousSilver>o/

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<sarna>o/

<sneek>Welcome back sarna, you have 1 message!

<sneek>sarna, maximed_ says: guix has ‘git-style’ subcommands, so you could look there as well

<sarna>sneek: later tell maximed_: I looked there but haven't found anything haha, I'm not that good with reading guile source yet :D but thanks!

<sneek>Will do.

<sarna>what does `ice-9` stand for? I can't really find anything on it

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<dsmith>sneek: ice-9?

<sneek>Last time I checked ice-9 is "a nod to the fictional substance in Kurt Vonnegut's novel, Cat's Cradle, capable of acting as a seed crystal to crystallize the mass of software" <http://wingolog.org/archives/2009/01/07/a-brief-history-of-guile>

<sarna>thank you!

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<dsmith>sneek: botsnack

<sneek>:)

<dsmith>!since

<sneek>I've been running for 8 minutes and 11 seconds

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>This system has been up 8 minutes

<dsmith>Had a power outage..

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>This system has been up 16 minutes

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>This system has been up 19 minutes

<dsmith>!since

<sneek>I've been running for 2 minutes and 54 seconds

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>I've been running for 56 seconds

<sneek>This system has been up 26 minutes

<dsmith>Yey

<dsmith>sneek: seen rlb

<sneek>rlb was last seen in #guile -49 minutes and -21 seconds ago, saying: Oh, though I should perhaps mention that on some of the platforms some tests have been marked as "unreliable", and their failures ignored..

<chrislck>sneek: what is a time traveller?

<chrislck>you are!

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<dsmith>sneek: seen rlb

<sneek>rlb was last seen in #guile one day and 21 hours ago, saying: Oh, though I should perhaps mention that on some of the platforms some tests have been marked as "unreliable", and their failures ignored..

<dsmith>Time was not set correct when power came back up.

<dsmith>!uptime

<sneek>I've been running for 5 minutes and 57 seconds

<sneek>This system has been up 6 minutes

<dsmith>sneek: botsnack

<sneek>:)

<dsmith>The time was Nov 3, 2016 !

<lampilelo>why?

<lampilelo>that's when the docker image was created or something like that?

<chrislck>sneek: who's a good bot

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<dsmith-work>lampilelo: The system rebooted but didn't have Inet connectivity to contact NTP servers.

<dsmith-work>(Router was not up yet)

<dsmith-work>lampilelo: The device has no RTC and relies on NTP to set the date

<lampilelo>yeah, but why 2016?

<dsmith-work>Not sure. Has Debian on it. Paritally upgraded (thing only has 2G flash). Probably some initial date in that.

<dsmith-work>!uname

<sneek>Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux

<rlb>wingo, civodul: filed a bug to capture what I know about the 3.0.7 #nil problem and record the "fix" I came up with: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=49305 I'd be happy to apply it if we decide it's reasonable, but I'd *definitely* want a second opinion.

<civodul>rlb: i'm no reference in these matters, but what you propose looks reasonable to me

<civodul>$sc-dispatch, via match*, does (cond ((null? p) ...) ...)

<civodul>and (null? p) matches #nil

<civodul>which prolly explains the bug you're seeing

<Aurora_v_kosmose>I don't suppose Guile has the ability to dump executable images?

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<maximed>sneek: later tell: Aurora_v_kosmose: Guile has some modules for manipulating ELF and Guix has some other modules as well

<maximed>sneek: later tell Aurora_v_kosmose: Guile has some modules for manipulating ELF and Guix has some other modules as well

<sneek>Got it.

<maximed>sneek: later tell Aurora_v_kosmose: It's not quite ‘dumping executable images’ though

<sneek>Got it.

<Aurora_v_kosmose>Alright. I'd been wondering for the case of rumprun VMs.

<sneek>Welcome back Aurora_v_kosmose, you have 2 messages!

<sneek>Aurora_v_kosmose, maximed says: Guile has some modules for manipulating ELF and Guix has some other modules as well

<sneek>Aurora_v_kosmose, maximed says: It's not quite ‘dumping executable images’ though

<dsmith-work>Aurora_v_kosmose: unexec used to be a thing at one time.

<Aurora_v_kosmose>The gcc feature which Emacs recently stopped using, correct?

<dsmith-work>But with all the dependant .so's and stuff like address space randomization, I question if that's even possible anymore.

<Aurora_v_kosmose>(Or was it glibc? Meh anyway)

<dsmith-work>Ya. Take a running process and write the whole address space to disk as an executable.

<dsmith-work>Guile used to be really slow to start.

<Aurora_v_kosmose>Right, glibc wants to remove unexec so that's probably going away soonish.

<dsmith-work>Aurora_v_kosmose: Why are you interested in unexec? (what's a rumprun VM?)

<Aurora_v_kosmose>dsmith-work: rumprun allowed one to turn executables into unikernels. Unfortunately now that I look again... the project seems to have died.

<dsmith-work>!uptime

<sneek>I've been running for 7 hours

<sneek>This system has been up 7 hours, 55 minutes

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