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<manumanumanu>jesus christ in a chicken basket. I love macros.

<manumanumanu>A friend of mine created bindings for libsodium for perl, and the amount of boilerplate is astounding

<daviid>hello guilers!

<dsmith-work>Tuesday Greetings, Guilers

<roelj>Is there a convenient function in Guile to find a file matching a regexp? Like (find-file "/home/user/some-dir/*/*-tag.txt")

<davexunit>no

<davexunit>you could use the file tree walking procedure plus a regexp to write it, though

<davexunit>see the docs for 'ftw' in the manual

<roelj>Alright, thanks :)

<daviid>roelj: I wrote one, not as beautifull as i wish, but it might help ...

<daviid> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/grip.git/tree/grip/fs-ops.scm?h=devel

<daviid>see get-filenames (it's based on Aubrey Jaffer's SLIB, see the commentary in (grip support slib) ...

<daviid>roelj: I believe guix has a 'find file' in its utils too, maybe ask in #guix

<roelj>daviid: Oh, that is very useful, thanks!

<daviid>roelj: yw

<Wojciech_K>Hello! How to make Guile `eval` in local scope? Example: (let ((x 3)) (eval '(+ x 1) ??)

<Wojciech_K>)

<bavier>does anyone know how to suppress output from ldconfig like: "/sbin/ldconfig: /usr/local/lib/libguile-2.0.so.22.8.1-gdb.scm is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start."?

<dsmith-work>Wojciech_K: Hows this: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Local-Evaluation.html

<bavier>I think the gdb debugging support for libguile is great, but I've heard too many complaints about that output from ldconfig

<Wojciech_K>Thanks, dsmith-work. (local-eval sexpr (the-environment)) does the trick

<dustyweb>davexunit: https://www.npmjs.com/package/commander look at this stringly typed madness

<ArneBab_>dustyweb: where is that stringly typed? is the typing not rather in the type-parsing functions?

<dustyweb>.option('-p, --peppers', 'Add peppers')

<dustyweb>ArneBab_: so right there

<dustyweb>it's extracting the options based on what's in that string

<dustyweb>rather than taking them as some sort of proper arguments

<dustyweb>but it gets a bit goofier

<dustyweb> .command('install [name]', 'install one or more packages')

<dustyweb>you can also do that stuff

<dustyweb>I dunno, parsing the structure out of strings passed in seems really gross to me

<dustyweb>davexunit introduced me to the term "stringly typed", I may be misusing it though ;)

<ArneBab_>isn’t --peppers just giving the variable name?

<dustyweb>yes, the option name is parsed out of that string

<dustyweb>but why parse it from a string? better to have the structure actually passed in via... structure

<dustyweb>I'm doing more javascript for work so I'm just complaining ;)

<ArneBab_>Given that these come from the command line, they actually come as strings, I think

<ArneBab_>you may be in a better position to judge whether the parsing functions actually provide any type security in Javascript, though

<ArneBab_>You could still add an integer argument to a string argument and get it appended to the string

<OrangeShark>I believe stringly typed is more like where you pass strings to represent types to change the behavior of something

<ArneBab_>so that just checks the structure of the arguments (that they can be interpreted as the given type) but does not give you runtime guarantees.

<ArneBab_>Technopedia claims that stringly typing means to store things in strings: https://www.techopedia.com/definition/31876/stringly-typed

<OrangeShark>okay, the example they give is storing the date as a string

<ArneBab_>I don’t know whether they are right in their description, though

<davexunit>dustyweb: Ruby's OptionParser class is similarly stringly typed and terrible

<davexunit>I use it pretty frequently at work to make cli utilities

<dustyweb>ArneBab_: sounds like stringly typed to me :)

<ArneBab_>dustyweb: ok - thanks :)

<cmaloney>dustyweb: javaScript is just a frustrated Scheme. ;)

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