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<Apteryx>what's the best way to check if a directory exist?

<Apteryx>file-exists? looks like it

<Apteryx>why are packages being built /gnu/store/some-hash-mypackage found themselves amongst their 'inputs'?

<Apteryx>sorry, that's not true. something else is at play.

<catonano>amz3: your reply about Culturia and Wiredtiger is a bit longer, I'll rread it later ;-)

<amz3>since yesterday discussion with dustyweb about racket's scribble, I've been thinking about making an alternative to it in guile

<amz3>I can't take that idea out of my mind, it's painful

<amz3>"Another important GNU standard is that GNU programs should come with documentation in Texinfo format." https://www.gnu.org/help/evaluation.en.html

<amz3>Looking up the documentation of scribble again, I am not sure it's the best we can do, the syntax is rather complicated

<amz3>I prefer skribe actually

<daviid>than skribilo already works with Guile

<amz3>skribilo doesn't work with guile 2.2.3 and doesn't generate texinfo IIRC

<daviid>amz3: you might prefer to contribute to skribilo... I wonder what scribble has that skribilo doesn't?

<daviid>amz3: but it works with guile ... it is a much better route ...

<amz3>that's the thing, scribble only has beautiful html output with a search engine and ... awesome font selection

<daviid>I's patch skribilo rather then start ' guile-scribble' from scratch

<amz3>you are right

<daviid>at least i would ask on skribilo wha they think (and they, is civodul, so you'll have dead beautifull code to play with, support, opinionated opinion ...)

<amz3>I am not good at discussing actually...

<daviid>just grabb and study skribilo on your own then ... patch and send patches...

<daviid>i'm almost certain it can do what scribble does, it is just a matter of resource

<daviid>amz3: porting it to 2.2.3 would be an excellent start ... imo

<dustyweb>amz3: IMO Skribe's syntax (the string quasiquote) is nicer from a programmer's perspective, but Scribble's syntax (of strings-by-default, escaped into code) is a bit nicer

<dustyweb>but yes! please contribute to skribilo :D

<dustyweb>that is a great project

<amz3>I am not good at contributing

<amz3>I like to do my own things

<amz3>maybe I shoud change that in _2019_ but not yet

<amz3>Changing of topic, I am looking for an application idea to write on top of gnunet

<amz3>any idea?

<amz3>it must be slow kind of application, not something like cooperative editing like hackpad

<amz3>I was thinking about a wiki but i prefer the bulletin board thing

<catonano>amz3: I'd love a social network to publish photos

<catonano>anohthher one fforr storring and sharing bookmars, like Pocket

<catonano>the photos could be georeferenced, like thhey were in Panoramio

<catonano>thhat is, being placeable on thhe openstreetmaps map

<amz3>yep

<catonano>o enough :-)

<amz3>a bulletin board or forum in nowdays parlance is a social network

<catonano>yes

<catonano>well, I don't know anymore

<catonano>I knew what the web was before the web 2.0" wave

<catonano>A forums seems to be a concept coming from an age before the web 2.0 wave, but thhat's ok :-)

<amz3>well it's true that forums are rather old school but they are still current

<amz3>see HackerNews, reddit, somewhat quora, somewhat stackoverflow, discuss

<amz3>actually all those forums I cited have flaws, outside the non-free aspect (and closed garden in the case of quora)

<catonano>ah yes

<catonano>those are a bit more of a form to me, but as I said, it's ok. ANY app on top of GNUNet is an extremely good thhing right now

<amz3>like for instance, unlike a wiki, there is no one-stop place where you can learn everything to know about a given subject

<amz3>catonano: yes, you are right, I am asking, because I don't want to build something and then nobody will try to try it

<catonano>I will ;-)

<amz3>I plan to use command line interface to avoid because a lot of people around don't like much web tools

<amz3>I wondering if people don't like html + css + js because it's crap or because a lot of it is closed source or because it's hype

<catonano>I dont understand: do you want to _avoid_ command line ?

<amz3>catonano: I will code a command line not web ui

<catonano>ah I see

<catonano>I don't know. Thhat would cut out a lot of potential users

<catonano>people hhate web stuffff, not GUIs

<spk121>amz3: I do reject the premise that people avoid html+css+js. In practice, most of my computing life is spent in other people's websites.

<spk121>amz3: I just don't like coding in it, because it is so many weird technologies stuck together

<catonano>I would consider a Gnome based GUI :-)

<amz3>catonano: I don't know guile-gnome, yet.

<catonano>eh

<amz3>spk121: I agree, but videos, blink, gifs and stuff... maybe it's possible to do all that stuff in guile-gnome

<catonano>you're right

<amz3>if there was an equivalent of snabbdom for gnome it would be nice

<amz3>too bad daviid just logged out

<jeko>Hello guilers !!

<jeko>I have installed Guile on my Trisquel and I miss some SRFIs in the distribution :-(

<jeko>I have downloaded and installed manually the SRFI64 for example

<jeko>Is it the nominal case for Guile 2.0.9

<jeko>?

<hugo>That doesn't sound right

<hugo>Where did you get it from. The git://git.sv.gnu.org/guile.git repo contains all the SRFI code for guile

<jeko>Hi hugo ! I just sudo apt-get install guile-2.0

<amz3>ACTION questioning himself about gtk vs web stack

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