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<manumanumanu>Good morning everyone! I have spent the whole day gardening

<manumanumanu>Such a fantastic hobby, which sadly my whole family considers a waste of time

<manumanumanu>planning a garden is fun

<nee`>I took a short look at guile-pg and why it doesn't build with guile2.2. It uses the scm_port struct which was renamed to scm_t_port and had it's definition removed from libguile/ports.h. Is there some alternative, or should a pointer to a custom struct be restored in SCM_STREAM now?

<wingo>nee`: does guile-pg implement a port type?

<wingo>in summary tho the change is documented in NEWS and the port API is documented in the manual: https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/I_002fO-Extensions.html#I_002fO-Extensions

<nee`>wingo: yes for a postgresql connection I think http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/guile-pg.git/tree/src/libpq.c

<wingo>hoo, that code is pretty old

<wingo>if you can, you probably want to get rid of the mark function for the "xc" data type

<wingo>see https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Foreign-Object-Memory-Management.html#Foreign-Object-Memory-Management for a discussion

<nee`>I've been using it to connect to postgres. I'm now considering wether it's less work to upgrade it, or to just switch to guile-squee (which is pure guile code).

<wingo>yeah i feel you. in your place i would look at switching to guile-squee but i understand the pain of migrating working code :/

<wingo>if you want to look further regarding guile-pg, civodul has a commit to gnutls where he makes the gnutls guile bindings use either old or new C port types

<nee`>okay thanks for the hints

<rekado_>manumanumanu: oh, a fellow gardener!

<ennoausberlin>Hello, Guix

<ennoausberlin>I wonder if there is a way to get the result of a grouping in a guile regexp

<ennoausberlin>Lets say: I have a string like "Starting point: 'xxxxx' end point: 'yyyyy' Time: zzzzz" where xxxxx, yyyyy and zzzzz arent fix. How do I get them as result of a match:string

<ijp>okaky, so I think I know my issue from yesterday which is that I don't think the module was "beautified"

<cmaloney>morning

<ijp>afternoon

<dustyweb>o/

<manumanumanu>rekado_: it's a shame I am got started so late. We have had a house like... forever.

<stis>Hey all!

<stis>The irc logs does not work for me with chrome, some problems with sequrity it seams. Anyone knows what happened?

<lfam>stis: The site's TLS certificate expired

<stis>thanks for the info ifam

<daviid>nee`: if you switch to guile-squee, checkout the devel branch, because I autotool chained there (in the devel branch) and for some reason, christopher did not merged these mofifs yet ... - also note that guile-squee is very experimental and does not compare, by no means to guile-pg in terms of functionalty

<daviid>nee`: https://notabug.org/cwebber/guile-squee/src/devel

<zv>so, https://gnunet.org is down with an expired certificate

<zv>also uses HSTS -- can't that *permanently* lock you out of your site?

<zv>luckily w3m still works :)

<lfam>zv: Once the certificate is valid again, then the site will work again.

<zv>lfam: isn't the thing with HSTS that it delivers TOFU in addition to a CA-verified certificate?

<zv>oh, actually that's HKPK

<zv>err, HPKP

<lfam>HSTS tells the client (like your browser) that the site should only be accessed over HTTPS. It's a way for site operators to disable unauthenticated HTTP with compliant clients.

<lfam>As you found, it's possible to write a client that doesn't handle it

<lfam>Or, you can just tell your client that you will accept bogus TLS

<lfam>One shouldn't enable HSTS unless they are confident they can manage their TLS certificates

<lfam>zv: I'm curious, where did you get your w3m? From a distro?

<zv>lfam: yeah

<lfam>The project was abandoned upstream and Debian seems to be the most active development site

<zv>of course there is no way to search the logs the day I need them :)

<zv>ijp: is there any way you remember a conversation about something having to do with some scoping issue or something like that about 6 months back?

<zv>SICP-related?

<ijp>not off the top of my head, but if you have some more context...

<zv>There was a bug in guile, or at least you said it was a bug

<zv>it was let/letrec related??

<ijp>I vaguely remember it

<zv>you angrily insisted it was a bug when i brought it up later?

<zv>s/angrily/firmly

<zv>well i can't search logs so this is why i'm bugging you

<zv>maybe there was a guile patch, i'll have to take a look

<ijp>okay, july 14th?

<ijp>2016...maybe this is the wrong one

<zv>maybe just search "sicp" if you're keeping logs

<ijp>is this it http://shift-reset.com/tmp/zvlog?

<ijp>whoops wrong encoding :/

<ijp>I think my "firm insistence" relates to the question about symbol-set! vs module-set!

<ijp>dustyweb: assuming I'm not accidentally invoking the wrong continuation (which is always a possibility), then apart from a few lines which call resolve-module (<= 6 of them) we have boot-9

<dustyweb>ijp: woohoooooo!

<dustyweb> ASCII DANCE PARTY

<dustyweb> /_o_/ \\ / \\o_ o

<dustyweb> ( _|_ ) //)

<dustyweb> /\\ / o \\ /| /|

<dustyweb> *BMCH BMCH BMCH BMCH*

<bavier`>lol

<ijp>that was very confusing for a few lines

<dustyweb>;)

<dustyweb>nice work ijp

<dustyweb>I know that's a hell of a lot of hacking

<dustyweb>now bee arr bee, lunch