<paroneayea>the only things I can think of between it working, killing the process, and it not working, is the first time it compiled everything in the cache, but I wiped that <paroneayea>daviid: pretty straightforward, ERROR: no code for module (gnome gobject) <paroneayea>but why dit it stop working between REPL sessions? <daviid>paroneayea: you have to ,use (gnome-2) first <paroneayea>daviid: well I'm glad my system wasn't mutated in some insanely strange way! <daviid>paroneayea: it sets %load-path so it finds guile-gnome modules <daviid>paroneayea: then you had a script and used '... exec guile-gnome-2 ... which also sets things 'up' to find modules... <daviid>paroneayea: anyway, I recommend you #:use-module (gnome-2) in any of your guile-gnome modules ... <daviid>sapientech: have to go afk for a bit. you should update the configure.ac as we've talked about... then I suggest you look at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/g-golf.git/tree/, you may copy the 'am' content [guile.mk] (some of us call this subdir 'mk', then look at Makefile.am and pre-inst-env.in, the meta subdir as well ... feel free to copy anything ... <daviid>sapientech: note that in g-golf, I 'improved' guile.m4 a bit, because I wanted GUILE_GLOBAL_SITE_DIR and GUILE_SITE_CCACHE_DIR, you may copy that version as well if your are interested <amz3`>bad news again, another of my program is killed by oom killer, but this time there is no streams at all <amz3`>I should propably take this as an opportunity to install guix but I'm too lazy <amz3`>I need to install guile 2.0.12 to test a program <amz3`>If I had installed guix, it would be easy to switch from 2.1.3 to 2.0.12 <janneke>you don't have to sudo dpkg -i g2/*deb -- g2.2/*deb all the time <janneke>if you're on debian, i have a guix package that can be easily built and installed an you run guix (the package manager) on top of debian first <amz3`>that's the case, I run debian jessie (stable) <amz3`>janneke: where is the guix package? <janneke>amz3`: you still need to build the .deb; see the recipe in README <amz3`>janneke: does it work on ubuntu? <amz3`>cool I'll do the same on my personal computer then <amz3`>janneke: that's super cool, thx for your time <janneke>Oh, it's courtesy Diane Trout -- I just cloned it and made some small fixes and updates that are not in Diane's repo -- guess they lost interest <amz3`>janneke: sorry, but there is an issue when I run `uscan' I get the following message: uupdate: new version 0.10.0-1 <= current version 0.10.0-1; aborting! <janneke>amz3`: hmm... you should get 0.11.0 because that's current <amz3`>I must switch to develop in guix repo? <janneke>i built it on ubuntu for 0.11.0, let me have a look <janneke>amz3`: no, it builds from the release tarball <amz3`>let me recap, I git clone the guix repo, then I git clone guix-debian as debian directory in guix repo and run uscan in guix repo, is that correct? <janneke>amz3: no, just mkdir deb-guix; cd deb-guix; git clone debian-guix.git debian; (no CD-ing); uscan ... dpkg-build etc <janneke>amz3`: i pushed an update for 0.11.0; please re-clone or hard reset to master, sorry ;-) <janneke>you can clone guix later and have the guix binary from the deb package work with the latest guix repo <amz3`>on debian stable, I got an error during dpkg-buildpackage regarding unmet guile-json dependency, guile-json is not in apt <amz3`>I'm trying the same on ubuntu <amz3`>on ubuntu 16.04.1 it's building... <janneke>hmm, guile-json now how did I get around that <amz3`>probably you installed it manually? <amz3`>is it ok the send a 8MB to the bug tracker? <amz3`>is it ok the send a 8MB *file* to the bug tracker? <amz3`>test of guile 2.0.12 in progress <rekado>Is there an SVG image creation library for Guile? I’m looking for abstractions to compose simple SVGs from within Guile. <rekado>I know there are bindings to librsvg, but I think they are not for creating SVGs. <rekado>now I’m just using ad-hoc functions to generate some sxml expressions <rekado>amz3`: I’m looking for something where I can write (translate #:x 10 (circle x y r)) and it produces the corresponding SVG for a translated circle. <amz3`>I should make some benchmarks... <wingo>it would be great to rewrite the reader in scheme and compile to c, that way we could possibly create syntax objects instead of s-expressions just by modifying the compiler! <amz3`>I pushed a new documentation regarding wiredtigerz, the high level API for interacting with wiredtiger <amz3`>The main addition to wiredtigerz is that you use a wiredtiger database from multiple thread seemlessly via the environment and call-with-cursor <amz3`>also it has a mini-dsl to define a table with indices <amz3`>does length procedure goes through all of the lst to compute the length? <janneke>amz3`: guile/libguile/list.c:scm_ilength () <janneke>it's worse: it uses a tortoise and hare to make sure not to get stuck in circular lists <otjura>why isn't guile -c (+ 1 2) working? <otjura>I want to eval sexps in bash and man says "Stop argument processing, and evaluate EXPR as a Scheme expression." <jmd>otjura: Try guile -c '(display (+ 1 2))' <amz3`>preliminary benchmark, show that there is 1k assoc inserted per second, and 1k5 assoc read per second <amz3`>where an assoc, is an alist with 10 symbol keys of length 30 associated with a string value of length 128 <amz3`>later I'll publish a graph over 10^7 assoc inserted <amz3`>this is before the end of the benchmark <amz3`>there is already 3.5G of assoc in the database <amz3`>I expect better performance when wiredtiger is used like a RDBMS <amz3`>now I should compare this at least to sqlite but I'm too lazy <amz3`>also the insert time include the generation of the assocs <amz3`>I mean the insert RPS value include the time required to randomly generate an assoc <daviid>amz3`: when comparing to sqlite, you must put the write i a transaction because otherwise unfair :) (unless in a transaction, sqlite open and closes the db at each write ... ) <amz3`>ah yes, I did not use txn, I think I should try <djcb>is there function in the c-api to convert a sexp to a string? <djcb>ie. the equivalent of (format #f "~S" sexp) ***holomorp1 is now known as holomorph
<amz3`>so now I need to convert my boolean-keyword search engine to use a graphdb <amz3`>my search engine will *flex*, it *flex* around doing fancy stuff <amz3`>I have all the stuff around but I'm lazy, I'm looking for something else <amz3`>I'm wondering whether I should restart git bindings or implement flexbox layout <djcb>amz3`: would xapian fit the bill? <amz3`>I am doing a research project, I want maximum flex, flex, flexibility <djcb>you sound like a duran-duran song :-) <amz3`>ahah, listenning to duran-duran right now <amz3`>how to explain what I am doing? <amz3`>It seems to me that doing search primary goal is given a way to search for things, you build to most performant data layout <amz3`>given an algorithm, you build the best index <amz3`>that's what xapian does for full text search and boolean keyword search <amz3`>but I'd like to do more than boolean/keyword/fulltext search <amz3`>like I'd like to resolve synonyms <djcb>xapian does have support for that <djcb>(though perhaps not as flex flex flexible as you want) <amz3`>more generaly I want to create a playground for NLP software <amz3`>I am experimenting with that goal using a search engine <amz3`>also I want to do a lot of guile ;) <djcb>ah, i'm combining a bit of guile and a bit of xapian <djcb>xapian "does the job" and it does it pretty well <djcb>but perhaps not give you all the flexibility you need <djcb>i'm using it for e-mail indexing (mu/mu4e/mu-guile) <djcb>the existing bindings are a bit... pedestrian... so i'm trying to design some new ones <djcb>xapian uses std::string which I feed with utf8; so that part of i18n is there <amz3`>I wonder whether the fulltext search engine customize stemming based on language <amz3`>in principle it should take a language argument as input with the indexed text, because you can't reliably guess the language just with the text <djcb>thought about that, doing a little ngram/bayesian thing. xapian has some support influencing stemming <djcb>but i don't think it is "document"-specific <djcb>so perhaps you'd need a database per language (it's possible to combine databases for queries though) <paroneayea>djcb: you don't happen to know of any guile bindings for xapian, do you? :) <paroneayea>though I guess iirc mu is itself C or C++, and connecting to guile <paroneayea>(iirc xapian is C++ so the FFI couldn't be used) <djcb>paroneayea: indeed, i don't happen to know... <djcb>i do a little bit of c++ to wrap the parts of xapian i need; most of the rest of the code is in c, and guile talks to the c code using manual bindings <djcb>would prefer to use e.g. guile-gir, but that project seems on hiatus <djcb>i think the endless folks did something? <djcb>now all we need is to have the guile-gir bindings finished <djcb>that would open up quite a treasure chest of software <webshinra>yep, time is comming to get ride of C, or at least reserve it to really specific tasks 