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<jeffers-media>paroneayea: hey was reading over some of your emails related to guile/emacs. I am starting to aquaint myself with the code, and was wondering if you/others are planning to work on it <amz3>does anyone has an idea about my https-get bug ? <nalaginrut>ksinkar: are you serious? implement so many languages on Guile? #ButILikeIt <wleslie>well, it's about generating documentation from each of those languages. but that would be fun too. <amz3>ksinkar: thx for doing that! <amz3>ksinkar: please send a mail on the mailing list too <amz3>nalaginrut: did you see my message about the bug with https? did you experience similar behavior? <janneke>"It's been nice interacting with you!" <paroneayea>I don't have time to work on it, but I have rebased it up to a recent point <amz3>paroneayea: hi, is guile-squee working? <nalaginrut>amz3: well, it's not standard interface in guile, so it depends on how you implement https-get <paroneayea>it looks like guile's http library doesn't accept bearer tokens ***_gema is now known as gema`
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<jmd>janneke: Did you solve your problem about procedure-source ? <janneke>jmd: thanks, not really i worked around it <webshinra>hey, happy guile users, I'm working on a little weird project, and I would like you experience on guile to guide me a little on the first design decision (to avoid to many massive rewrite later) <ijp>the recent degendering patch missed a fair few <webshinra>i'm workign on a tabletop roleplaying hard-sfi game that'll use computers has a gamemaster assistant <webshinra>and, as RPG have a (really) long life, I plan to include the source code inside the book, encoded in 2d bar-code <ijp>in fairness pronouns aren't the easiest to grep for <webshinra>to allow the code bounded to the book to be implementation-agnostic I'll respect the R6RS norm for it, especially for module <webshinra>I'll like to provide a more confortable interface later, probably with ncurses, and using GNU/Guile <webshinra>will the fact that I'll not use the guile facilities pose a threat to this integration ? and, if I'm not bothering you, do you think of any thing I should especialy take care of ? <nalaginrut>webshinra: if you're targeting a 2D game, maybe Sly engine helps you <webshinra>hum, I'm targetting a oral game, the idea is that the gamemaster handle the narrative part (human are good for it) and the computer handle formal and computational part <webshinra>sort of, but composed in half-realtime by a meat-composed gamemaster :) <nalaginrut>a human gamemaster control the scene? maybe you need a game server framework, like gzochi <ijp>webshinra: it's not even clear what you are asking <DeeEff[m]>sounds like he wants a game like D&D where the GM controls the story, but he tracks the player's stats / levels / data via a program that can manipulate things <nalaginrut>webshinra: are you making a D&D style MUD, which has a dungeon master <ijp>integrating with ncurses is always going to be a pain, since ncurses is to begin witih <ijp>there is no portable library, so you'd either need to write one, or use the guile version <webshinra>hum, nalaginrut gzochi seems interesting for a multi-computer table, thank you <ijp>I'm sceptical about how much computation you should be requiring in a tabletop game <ijp>regardless of what is doing it <DeeEff[m]>I suspect most of it will revolve around a smarter interface to a database <DeeEff[m]>Mapping entities to/from SQL and / or committing long-term objects <nalaginrut>webshinra: for the GUI, as a MUD game, I think ANSI escaping code for coloring is enough, user just telnet for it <webshinra>as an exemple, I'll implement orbital calculation and lightspeed limited message propagation <nalaginrut>webshinra: I've tried one, a MUD game on telnet, but I have no gzochi at that time <webshinra>the combat system is interesting but hard to play only with mind and paper as it relay on a indexed time scale (where most game use a event-relative time scale) <nalaginrut>I think efficient messages dispatching is include in gzochi, no? <webshinra>the fact is the interacting with rule-part should not depend on external lib, but the user interface built on it can <ijp>with careful writing you can probably mostly insulate the ui <nalaginrut>of course you may write it from scratch, if you're willing to show complete bootstrap code for a book <webshinra>the first part (maybe unclear, please forgot my messy english, as i'ts not my mothertongue) of my question was, «will guile bother me a lot if I use the R6RS librarie form instead of is own?» <nalaginrut>ACTION doesn't write r6rs code because he doesn't like r6rs, not the problem of guile at all <nalaginrut>webshinra: at lease you need guile specific code for network, but you have Spell lib for r6rs <mark_weaver>there's no problem with writing almost all the code in r6rs, and then selectively using some guile-specific interfaces where needed. <nalaginrut>anyway, it's a heavyweight one IMO, so you may wrap your own network module for portability <webshinra>nalaginrut, I'll have a look at gzochi, as it seem to be a good server middleware, It's not really a problem since the book will not include networked part <webshinra>even if it's not my priority target, will that kind of lib be able to be used on microsoft window? <DeeEff[m]>Guile itself will probably be a problem on Windows, unless you plan on distributing pre-built binaries. <DeeEff[m]>Then again, I guess Ubuntu on Win10 probably solves a lot of that <webshinra>I gess Windows users can suffer to get pre-built binaries as they got a «black box» os already <ijp>I find it curious that you plan to distribute it as a barcode <davexunit>reminds me of the old ereader for the nintendo gameboy advance <davexunit>I loaded donkey kong onto that thing by swiping cards with barcodes <webshinra>to be precise, i'll use qr-code with the ISO/IEC 18004 :2006 norm <webshinra>I'm member of the oldest french roleplaying club, and looking at our game collection, I can see that most game of the early internet period which use their website as a complement of the book lost that complement when it dies years ago <ijp>true, but there is archive.org <webshinra>As I see 80's/90's game played on a regular basis, I really wish to make the book a self-contained object <webshinra>ijp, that's true, and as the book source code will be released, that should assure it to be keep secured on things like INRIA's Software Heritage <webshinra>but even knowing that, the concept of having it as a whole is artisticaly important to me <jeffers-media>hi all, is it possible to use guix to install a git repository? Instead of installing it to a directory, and then changing global variables to use it, it would be great to use -ad-hoc to create new environments for hacking <amz3`>webshinra: your project sound fun <lfam>jeffers-media: Wrong channel? <Akko_Teru>ACTION tries to write mmorpg game using guile but needs more practice still. <webshinra>amz3, thank you. I think I'll keep the chan informed of my progress :) <amz3`>webshinra: they guilers that work extensivly with compatibility in mind, so you will find help <amz3`>otherwise, there is a #scheme channal <amz3`>is it possible to parse bigger than xmls using guile? <amz3`>is it possible to parse bigger than RAM xmls using guile? <ijp>yes, probably, but it won't be as straightforward, and you'll need to do some codereading <amz3`>it's not a sax event-based API, it returns the full tree <amz3`>ah ok, I forgot about diving into the source code <ijp>module/sxml/upstream/ 