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<lfam>Should we disable parallel-tests on qemu again? roelj, GNUtoo-irssi and I have all been unable to build it, due to similar failures in the test suite. It worked for me when I disable parallel testing for version 2.5.1.1.
<roelj>lfam: Wrong channel perhaps?
<lfam>Indeed :)
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<galex-713>Hi
<galex-713>Where is doc for guile-sdl and guile-curse?
<galex-713>Also I’ve a question: will someday guile implement native compilation? I mean at least for emacs it would be useful :/
<galex-713>under debian I mean, for guile-sdl/curse
<OrangeShark>galex-713: I believe native compilation is one of the future goals for guile
<OrangeShark>galex-713: for docs you can find it on their website like https://www.gnu.org/software/guile-sdl/
<OrangeShark>says you can also type in your terminal "info guile-sdl"
<galex-713>OrangeShark: the point is I precisely can’t find it, but I’m not sure they’re installed with guile by default on debian :/
<galex-713>are they recent packages?
<galex-713>Also do you have some links to know where is work on guile native compilation?
<OrangeShark>galex-713: doesn't look like they are available in the debian repo
<galex-713>arf :/
<OrangeShark>galex-713: not sure if they is any work on native compilation yet, but they have discussed it in irc
<galex-713>ok
<galex-713>I see
<OrangeShark>I recall the plan is to eventually work towards it
<galex-713>ok
<galex-713>OrangeShark: also, I was asking myself: now guile support several languages, will guile objects C typedef be one day renamed from “SCM” to something like “GO” or something alike?
<OrangeShark> https://wingolog.org/archives/2016/02/04/guile-compiler-tasks
<OrangeShark>here is a roadmap, last mention on the bottom is native compilation
<galex-713>OrangeShark: HTTP Error 400 bad request :/
<OrangeShark>the site loads fine for me
<galex-713>ok, I disabled an extension and it works
<amz31>which site?
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<amz3`>got it thx
<galex-713>Is guile-opengl outdated?
<wingo>i think it's current. might need some updates for GL things in the last couple years
<galex-713>Why it’s still 0.x?
<galex-713>Is it incomplete?
<efraim>is guile-rsvg save from the recent librsvg CVEs?
<wingo>is anything ever complete? :)
<galex-713>x)
<galex-713>yeah but opengl is a standard right? so it’s possible to complete it all I suppose…
<galex-713>wingo: do guile-emacs still have the slowness problems? I’m still recompiling guile in order to test and it still didn’t end the second .go so… ^^
<efraim>(and foo bar), if 'foo is false 'bar doesn't get checked, right?
<ArneBab_>efraim: yepp. To test: (and #f ((λ () (display 'second)(newline))))
<efraim>thanks
<efraim>is there a character for end-of-file?
<efraim>nvm, i should just make sure I'm not already at the end
<nalaginrut>efraim: you need (call-with-input-string "" read) as *eof-object*
<nalaginrut>IIRC it's defined in (rnrs
<nalaginrut>)
<efraim>thanks
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<amz3>héllo again :)
<dsmith-w`>Tuesday Greetings, Guilers
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<galex-713>I’ve a question: why isn’t clisp implemented in guile? since elisp already is and have clisp.el I was wondering it should be something easy so why not?
<paroneayea>galex-713: it would be a lot of work to port common lisp over, it's a sizable spec
<paroneayea>elisp mostly works but still needs work. common lisp would be a huge other project
<galex-713>why so huge?
<galex-713>is clisp so complex? :o
<paroneayea>and clisp.el is not "all of common lisp", it's some utilities from common lisp which elisp hackers find helpful
<galex-713>ahh ok
<spk121>Sometimes you start a thing that sounds like a few hours work... And now I'm in day #3 of refactoring one of my project's "make check" tests.
<spk121>zzz
<wingo>moo
<stis>hi wingo: is it possible to turn off optimizations in the program as a macro?
<wingo>you mean you want to tell guile to never compile a file with optimizations?
<stis>yes
<wingo>or you want to be able to control the optimization level when you compile
<wingo>because there is -O0 at the "guild compile" command
<stis>i can live with the first but is interested of the second
<stis>ok
<wingo>try guild compile -Ohelp
<stis>ok