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<shanemikel>also, is there something analagous to the scratch buffer for guile? <daviid>wingo: hello! it would be awesome if you could fix 20093 before 2.1.3 <wleslie>what mind bending bugs are you discovering now daviid? <daviid>wleslie: this an old bug [1y old] <wleslie>release checklist should always include 'does David P have any outstanding bugs' <daviid>wleslie: what is your hacking 'domain'? <wleslie>I do a few things, nothing guile related at the moment. for fun; an IR optimiser, a pypy backend, a program for converting raster audio to notes. for money, fire simulation software for state government. <daviid>wleslie: and wrt guile, what do you use guile for? <wleslie>I used it for discovering gstreamer and playing with that <wleslie>your clutter bindings look great and I've been meaning to try them, but haven't so far. <daviid>wleslie: guile-gnome used to have a gstreamer binding, 10y old now, do you write e new binding? <wleslie>still have guile 1.8 as my default :P <random-nick>it seems that holding Ctrl-C interrupts the procedure trying to handle the interrupt? <daviid>wleslie: thanks! there are wingo's binding, I offered to [try] to maintain and contributed to 2 major clutter release steps, from 1.10 to 1.14.7 now, far from being up-to-date yet, but ... <daviid>wleslie: 1.8? that is really too bad, why is that? <daviid>you really should upgrade and besides, guile-gnome, guile-clutter do not work with guile <= 2.0.11, for info <daviid>wleslie: it takes less then 10min to install 2.0.11 <daviid>wleslie: what distro are you on? or maybe it is because of lilypond? 1.8 and 2.0 [as well as 2.2 by the wat] are // installable <wleslie>the problems I remember having were more related to gstreamer; I ended up rebuilding the entire world when some project wanted a newer version, and now I have no midi support <wleslie>distro is a mix of debian oldstable and nix <wleslie>so yes. I should fix things, but I've got a couple of other projects on the tip of the mind at present. <daviid>wleslie: so you are usng the old guile-gnome gstreamer binding then? [just truing to undrstand, pure curiosity] <daviid>ah! incredible :) nonetheless, you should grab guile 2.0.11 and install in /opt [or any where else], it really only takes 10min <wleslie>what are the new bindings? (gnome gobject) ? <daviid>wleslie: gstreamer, as clutter and any gnome binding use guile-gnome glib/gobject, which bind 2.10. I don't even know what gstreamer binding we used to bind, I only offered maintaince to guile-gnome [the main branch] and guile-clutter <daviid>wleslie: I'm working on a GI binding, but it's going to take some time, prob a year before it'll be good enough to auto wrap... then we should be able to wrap new versions of gstreamer <fhmgufs>daviid: Wow, you're actually working on GI for Guile? Very cool! <daviid>wleslie: guile-clutter is awesome, let me know when you try it, I can help to get it work, once you have 2.0.11 of course ... <daviid>wleslie: I've just checked out our gstreamer branch and the good news is it compiles fine using guile-gnome 2.16.4 <daviid>fyi, we bind gstreamer 0.9.91 [the latest is 1.8.x] <daviid>make checks fails [for guile-gstreamer] with guile trying to compile /bin/bash, does this error rings a bell for someone? I vaguely remember going through this a couple of y ago... <daviid>;;; WARNING: compilation of /bin/bash failed: <daviid>;;; ERROR: In procedure read_inner_expression: /bin/bash:8:14: unexpected ")" ... <wingo>git *still* doesn't work for me. wtfffffffff <fhmgufs>wingo: The Savannah access? Maybe try http, that's what works for me. <janneke>wingo: savannah seems to work for me <janneke>have you tried from another machine? <fhmgufs>For me neither the git:// nor the ssh:// way works. <janneke>ACTION lost email+git access this week until he set: ip li set mtu 1200 dev <mydev> <wingo>i can't push, is the problem :P <wingo>are there standard r6rs tests somewhere? <wingo>ACTION contemplating implementing custom binary i/o ports <wingo>i would literally release a 2.1.3 tonight if it weren't for the git thing. ffs <janneke>wingo: fwiw, i can push to git+ssh://git.sv.gnu.org/srv/git/lilypond <wingo>i think maybe this is something also related with the hooks <roelj>wingo: I have been able to send a simple mail to myself with the fencepost.gnu.org. <roelj>wingo: Though I cannot send a message to guix-devel with it.