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<paroneayea>sent the 8sync announcement post to the list

<nalaginrut>afternoon guilers~

<davexunit>alright, pack it in, everyone. it's over. http://elbenshira.com/blog/the-end-of-dynamic-languages/

<davexunit>I will be porting Sly and Guix to Haskell so that they will continue to be maintainable in the future.

***lloda` is now known as lloda

<paroneayea>I agree with davexunit

<paroneayea>texinfo has super nice emacs integration and reading guile docs in emacs is a dream, though we could really use nicer web export for texinfo

<paroneayea>davexunit: btw there's now an demos/ircbot.scm that you can copy in 8sync

<paroneayea>and live hack

<paroneayea>launch like: ./ircbot.scm --server irc.freenode.net --username slybot --channels "#sly #someotherchannel" --listen

<paroneayea>the --listen sets up the cooperative repl

<amz3>Python de facto standard is good, but I never used it for project as big as Guile and for an extended period

<amz3>it's called Sphinx

<amz3>I made a version of artanis 0.1 manual using http://www.hyperdev.fr/projects/reactive-menu/demo/long-read-with-table-of-content/#things-to-do

<paroneayea>btw, for those who care deeply about copyleft in #guile, Software Freedom Conservancy is asking people to join as supporters.. they need enough people to join to both support their basic work and to continue copyleft enforcement work http://sfconservancy.org/supporter/

<amz3>roelj: what do you think should be the feature of webdoc

<amz3>I don't think emacs info can be better than devdocs.io which requires reading or asking nobody for a manual

<amz3>having to copy docstring is just a pain, anything is better that that.

<amz3>nice!

<amz3>guile-websocket made it to the guile projects list but not guile-wiredtiger

<amz3>one hasn't released yet, but the other was released twice but who

<amz3>releases don't mean anything that is granted but still.

<daviid>the guile-clutter link is incorrect, any web maintainer here?

<amz3>(i am speaking about this list http://sph.mn/content/3e73)

<paroneayea>hm

<daviid>paroneayea: congrat for 8sync. I would use 8sync and %8sync everywhere, my 2c. and I do prefer the logo with no blurs.. another 2c :)

<paroneayea>daviid: thanks for the feedback :)

<paroneayea>%8sync makes a lot of sense

<daviid>what a stupid bet! and 'they think' there are top hackers right? haha

<daviid>paroneayea: yeah, and i would remove alias(es) and eight... it confuses a bit imo, but ok

<paroneayea>daviid: I think you're totally right

<paroneayea>and your suggestion is great

<paroneayea>I'll get on it

<daviid>imo, people should use promote and recommend kawa instead of clojure [when they have to 'deal' with java], and _not_ use recommend clojure, scheme is much better anyway, kawa has a much better integration with java, and more importantly, there are license problems: no one shoud promote the use of languages that participate to the destruction of the world

<ane>are you referring to the EPL licensing of Clojure?

<davexunit>I think so.

<davexunit>EPL is GPL incompatible

<davexunit>which turns me off from writing any free software in Clojure.

<ane>Clojure itself isn't free software, but you can release any software you write under the GPL https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojure/9yzj2vTVSok

<ane>(any Clojure software you write, that is)

<ane>it gets hairy when you want to release the compiled stuff (EPL .jar + your GPL stuff) which doesn't work, so it's not a great idea... too bad

<daviid>ane: nobody on earth shold use non free software to start with, full stop

<paroneayea>daviid: I incorporated your suggestion re: %8sync

<paroneayea>good solution :)

<daviid>paroneayea: gret!

<daviid>great!

<amz3>+1

<daviid>wingo: hello! do you have a plan wrt guile-sqlite3, like uploading it somewhere...?

<wingo>daviid: no plan, kinda hoping gitlab would do its thing :P

<davexunit>yeah that's taking awhile :/

<wingo>i am travelling this week and don't have that code on this machine tho

<wingo>otherwise i'd upload it now

<wingo>i don't even know if i have the latest version

<daviid>wingo: how about introduxing a GNU eval request? I can work on it

<wingo>i.e. it could be someone else added commits after me

<daviid>wingo: i have a local version as well, i1m pretty sure it is not the latest either

<wingo>no opinion about that

<wingo>if someone else wants to maintain it, that's fine with me too :)

<daviid>if you agree, I'll prepare, work on and introduce a GNU eval request

<daviid>paroneayea: for info https://sqlite.org/json1.html

<wingo>sgtm

<daviid>ok, thanks! will work on this asap. I will send an email to guile-user to see who has the latest :) [i'll post the header of my last git log entry ...]

<paroneayea>ACTION suddenly realizes he submitted 8sync to guile-devel instead of guile-user... oops

<paroneayea>well it was replying to a previous guile-devel post in a sense (about the async stuff) which is probably why I made that mistake

<daviid>wingo: i'l like to rename it Guile-SQLite [droping the 3] wdt?

<wingo>daviid: if you are doing it, do what you like. however iirc there is a sqlite4 at this point, and i think there was another project named guile-sqlite at one point

<daviid>ok, wiil look carefully to these 2 points

<paroneayea>syncbot: failboat

<paroneayea>whew! :)

<davexunit>syncbot: hello.

<syncbot>*stupid puppy look*

<davexunit>syncbot: how are you?

<syncbot>*stupid puppy look*

<paroneayea>that should be a bit less noise

<paroneayea>haha

<paroneayea>davexunit: let me add a command for hello

<davexunit>syncbot: am I messing up paroneayea's live coding?

<syncbot>*stupid puppy look*