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<daviid`>rotty: do you have ay objection if i change guile-lib autogen.sh not to run configur, rather invite the user to do so: echo "Now run ./configure --prefix=/your/prefix." [this is because that's what we do in all other lb tools, and it is not obvious for the user that he/she has to pass configure options here, wdt?
<daviid`>rotty: ok, I went ahead and implemented the above, if you object, ping me, I'll undo, but I think it is better this 'new'
<daviid`>rotty: i see guile-lib does not grab proper guile site location, but uses the user prefix instead, which may differ. that's not good, we should change that. i won't do it now, but let's keep that i mind
<daviid`>i mean the source code, examples and doc should be installed using the user prefix, but not the compiled file
<daviid`>rotty: for info, guile-lib make check fails for 1 test: FAIL: texinfo.serialize.scm
<daviid`>
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<nalaginrut>morning guilers!
<ota>g'nite
<rotty>daviid: autogen.sh should not run configure, that was a mistake
<daviid>rotty: ok, i changed that already
<daviid>good you confirmed, tx
<daviid>both make check and make distcheck fails, more on this tomorrow, have to go afk for now
<daviid>i'll work on make distcheck, but if you could work on make check, would be cool!
<daviid>bye
<ArneBab_>sneek: later tell daviid: arne_bab -ät- web -dot- de
<sneek>Okay.
<ArneBab_>sneek: botsnack
<sneek>:)
<amz3>héllo :)
<artyom-poptsov>amz3: Hi!
<amz3>hi artyom-poptsov !
<amz3>what are you up to artyom-poptsov ?
<artyom-poptsov>amz3: I was hacking on Guile-SSH recently, the nearest milestone is to add support of SFTP.
<amz3>neat
<artyom-poptsov>I have an idea that it should be possible to implement some kind of a distributed compiler for Guile.
<amz3>distcc doesn't work?
<artyom-poptsov>I mean, a compiler for Scheme code.
<amz3>I am not aware of that
<artyom-poptsov>If you ever compiled Guile from the sources you probably aware of noticeable time that takes 'guild compile' to compile some pure Scheme modules into .go files.
<amz3>yes
<artyom-poptsov>And as far as I know, distcc only works with C and C++ compilers.
<amz3>ok!
<artyom-poptsov>So wouldn't it be neat to be able to compile Scheme modules using few machines? I guess it's a quite hard task, but likely it's doable.
<amz3>and maybe drop distcc requirements?
<amz3>to compile everything via your software
<artyom-poptsov>:-) There's no such a software yet, it's only an idea and I'd doubt its value unless some implementation is available in the code.
<artyom-poptsov>It's sometimes easy to come up with ideas, but the implementation can be the hardest part.
<amz3>I'm well aware of that :/
<amz3>I'm trying to make sens of NLP, it's big task
<amz3>even porting another AGPLv3 library seems not doable
<amz3>I though that improving parser combinator would simplify my markdown parser, but I can't find the correct edit to do
<amz3>Actually I have the idea, but not sure it's possible to do
<amz3>I find parser combinators facinating
<lloda>sorry for the dump on bubu^ earlier (but for anyone interested, guile-ploy is now hosted at https://notabug.org/lloda/guile-ploy)
<amz3>ACTION reading new bubu
<jockej>do fluids come with a big performance penalty?
<civodul>jockej: it's definitely slower than access to local variables
<civodul>for for elisp code, that can be a problem
<civodul>but ISTR that bipt had done some optimizations in that area
<civodul>but i don't know the details
<jockej>in guile or in GuileEmacs you mean?
<jockej>I was thinking of making every variable in Emacs a fluid...
<jockej>btw, by local variable you mean let bound variables?
<civodul>yes, "local variables" in the Scheme sense, with lexical scope
<jockej>ah ok
<djcb>is there some way to turn off the compilation messages when a user loads some module?
<djcb>ideally, something that can be set in a .scm file
<ArneBab>djcb: I did not find anything yet…
<ArneBab>djcb: maybe you can redirect stderr
<ArneBab>hi
<djcb>ArneBab: thanks... my googling didn't find anything either
<paroneayea>hello!