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<hyvr>Hi, I just opened the guile interpreter and when I hit enter or ctrl-M, the interpreter just prints ^M and ignores me. This makes it impossible to send any commands or get started, can anyone help?

<dje42>It's waiting for an expression.

<dje42>What happens if you type (+ 1 2)<ret>

<hyvr>after restarting the interpreter, i can't replicate the bug

<hyvr>i'll see myself out, thanks

<dje42>no worries

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<nalaginrut>morning guilers~

<James_Zorf>nalaginrut, I feel most rejuvenated after just having slept.

<nalaginrut>well, seems I should sleep more too

<James_Zorf>nalaginrut, however so my fair maiden?

<nalaginrut>hmm

<artyom-poptsov>Hi nalaginrut

<artyom-poptsov>And hello everybody

<artyom-poptsov>Released Guile-SSH 0.7.0 (in case you missed it): https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2014-08/msg00074.html

<nalaginrut> heye artyom-poptsov ! I've already hit it when I get up this morning ;-)

<artyom-poptsov>nalaginrut: Great :-)

<James_Zorf>artyom-poptsov, you never greet me with such enthusiasm, what s up with that?

<James_Zorf>Am I not a man, and a brother?

<tadni>James_Zorf: Do you have a Y? Do you have a sibling?

<artyom-poptsov>James_Zorf: It's always exciting to do new releases, especially when you naively think that you were able to catch most of the bugs.

*tadni loves him some active guile projects.

<James_Zorf>tadni, explain?

<James_Zorf>Ohh, in that way.

<James_Zorf>tadni, it's actually not the Y, it's the SRY.

<James_Zorf>But 'man' in the quote refers to human being.

<James_Zorf>And brother is metaphorical.

<James_Zorf> http://www.picturehistory.com/images/products/0/0/6/prod_632.jpg

<James_Zorf>It's abolishonism propaganda basically.

*tadni is literal.

<tadni>But not literally.

<tadni>wingo: o/

<civodul>Hello Guilers!

<artyom-poptsov>Hi civodul

<tadni>civodul: Hey. o/

<sbidin>Hi, I've started learning Scheme/Guile and have run into a problem. I'm using (system foreign) to call a C procedure. However, it expects a pointer to an int as the input. How can I allocate an int and get its address from within Guile?

<sbidin>Or I suppose I should do that with malloc instead?

<civodul>hey, artyom-poptsov

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<nalaginrut>sbidin: I think you may create a large enough bytevector and convert it to pointer

<civodul>right

<civodul>sbidin: (let ((bv (make-bytevector (sizeof int)))) (bytevector-...-set! ...) (bytevector->pointer bv))

<sbidin>nalaginrut, civodul: Ah, I missed bytevectors. Thanks!

<sbidin>Is there a commonly-used repository of packages for Guile, like Haskell's Hackage? I've heard talk about a package manager, Guildhall, but that's in limbo?

<taylanub>there's Guildhall and there's Guix (whole OS/package-manager).

<taylanub>not sure how many packages Guildhall has

<taylanub>sbidin: BTW if you do FFI a lot this might help: https://gitorious.org/taylan-guile/bytestructures/

<sbidin>taylanub: Ah, so Guildhall works! That's good, though the project doesn't seem to have been updated for more than a year. Thanks for the bytestructures tip, that will be very useful to me.

<taylanub>sbidin: tell me about any issues you have with bytestructures

<sbidin>taylanub: I only just noticed you're the author. :) I'll ping you if I run into any.

<taylanub>I don't have any users so that'll be good :)

<ft>civodul: Thanks for fixing the plural exansion warnings with ‘format’. Works for me. :)

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<sbidin>Do Guile users avoid Github because it's not free software? I notice lots of libs are at Gitorious.

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<nalaginrut>sbidin: guildhall works fine, but we may need a site for showing packages

<nalaginrut>sbidin: btw, I'm using github for hacking

<nalaginrut>because github has better society, but I use gitorious for mirror

<nalaginrut>s/society/sociability

<sbidin>nalaginrut: Ah, yes, the Gitorious ones often do seem to have Github mirrors (or vice versa), so I probably overreacted. Small sample size.

<sbidin>Does Guildhall have some sort of homepage aside from the one on github?

<sbidin>I'm assuming not.

<nalaginrut>guildhall itself has it, but there's no cpan.org ;-)

<civodul>ft: cool, you're welcome

<civodul>artyom-poptsov: oh, just saw the Guile-SSH announcement, congrats!

<civodul>sorry i didn't take the time to follow up on the various issues

<taylanub>sbidin: Gitorious is fully free software under the AGPL and yes that factors in on the Guile community from what I've seen

<sneek>So noted.

<taylanub>what

<taylanub>sneek: gitorious

<sneek>Gitorious is fully free software under the AGPL and yes that factors in on the Guile community from what I've seen

<taylanub>haha, fuzzy nick matching I guess

<taylanub>sneek: forget gitorious

<sneek>Consider it forgotten.

<taylanub>sneek: botsnack :)

<sneek>:)

<artyom-poptsov>So sneek is presumably an IRC bot. Is it a cunning-bot instance?

<taylanub>sneek: version

<sneek>Sneeky bot running on Guile version 2.0.11 using bobot++ 2.3.0-darcs

<artyom-poptsov>Interesting

<artyom-poptsov>Where's its repository?

<taylanub>don't know

<taylanub>sneek: source

<sneek>source is at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=guile.git

<taylanub>sneek: code

<taylanub>sneek: bobot

<artyom-poptsov>taylanub: I suppose it should have a "help" command or something like this.

<taylanub>indeed, but better do that in a query, outputs a lot of stuff

<artyom-poptsov>Yeah, it does have a "help" command. Just checked.

<artyom-poptsov>civodul: Thanks for congratulations.

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<daviid>hello guilers. do you guys profile using times or is there something better that i am not [yet] aware ?

<ijp>,profile

<daviid>and in the code?

<ijp>uses statprof under the hood, I think

<daviid>ok

<daviid>for info: http://wingolog.org/archives/2009/02/09/visualizing-statistical-profiles-with-chartprof

<daviid>the 'Profiling' entry of the concept index of the guile reference manual [version 2.0.11.2-0ece4] points to 'Traps' 6.25.4, I think it should point to 'Profiling commands' 4.4.4.5

<DeeEff>Hey guilers

<DeeEff>what's the recommended way to install modules using guile? Just a simple makefile using /usr/bin/install ?

<daviid>,profile gives me this

<daviid>Sample count: 123

<daviid>Total time: 2.734684354 seconds (0.106948131 seconds in GC)

<daviid>which does not make sence

<daviid>.time gives me this

<daviid>;; 389.104340s real time, 3.325558s run time. 0.104384s spent in GC.

*daviid needs a lesson on profilig and timing numbers interpretation :)

<Cork>i have a list with an #<unspecified> element

<Cork>is there a way i can remove this from the list?

<Cork>i've tried with delete and delv, but i don't know what to enter to match that element

<ijp>unspecified?

<ijp>not a question

<Cork>ijp: what do you mean?

<dje42>ISTR the portable way to construct "unspecified" is (if #f foo), e.g., (if #f #f)

<ijp>Cork: that's the predicate that tests for the unspecified object

<ijp>if you are using delete rather than remove, you give it *unspecified* as the object to compare with

<Cork>ah

<Cork>with stars

<Cork>ijp: thx

<dje42>As in gdb, ,apropos is your friend. :-)

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