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<galex-713>What a GNU OS? https://ftp.galex-713.eu/pic/librism/gnu-linux.svg
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<nalaginrut>morning guilers~
<libquebec-dev>nalaginrut, I can't sleep.
<libquebec-dev>You always celebrate morning when I can't sleep.
<libquebec-dev>What is up with that.
<nalaginrut>you know what I'm going to say, huh?
<libquebec-dev>Well, I figured you wouldn't a third time.
<nalaginrut>yeah, seems I've already said it in your mind
<libquebec-dev>Yeah, solet's skip to the issue of lullabies
<libquebec-dev>what's in your repertoire.
*nalaginrut is programmed to say morning then dive into hacking...
<libquebec-dev>nalaginrut, well
<libquebec-dev>what's your opinion of the embedded terminal then
<nalaginrut>what's embedded terminal?
<nalaginrut>embedded devices as a terminal?
<libquebec-dev>It's when you have a terminal as part of your wallpaper essentially.
<libquebec-dev>Or in my case, 2 lines at the bottom of my screen
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<nalaginrut>hmm...sorry, I don't know about it
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<nalaginrut>well, about Munich Linux crisis: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/no-munich-isnt-about-to-ditch-free-software-and-move-back-to-windows/
<Jaffa_kree>nalaginrut, hmm
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<Jaffa_kree>The person that managed to get Amsterdam to switch to Linux was actually my physics teacher in secondary school.
<Jaffa_kree>He also was the person that managed to get the entire school to switch.
<nalaginrut>how about now? does the Linux work fine?
<Jaffa_kree>Cool guy, cool guy, Ph.D. in astrophysics, kung fung master and short and chubby chinese person, also part of the city counsel of amsterdam, at least in that time.
<Jaffa_kree>Also, the kind of teacher that just says "arbeit macht frei" when he puts you to work and you protest.
<nalaginrut>so he is Chinese?
<Jaffa_kree>Yeah
<Jaffa_kree>"Microsoft claimed that, by its estimation, the LiMux project would have cost considerably more than Munich had stated. A Microsoft-commissioned report put the project's price at €60.6m, far more than the €17m Microsoft claimed it would have cost to shift to Windows XP and a newer version of Microsoft Office. However Munich said Microsoft's figures were based on a number of bogus assumptions, such as massively overestimating the number of peo
<Jaffa_kree>ple who implemented Limux."
<Jaffa_kree>Yeah...
<nalaginrut>Jaffa_kree: can you tell me his name?
<Jaffa_kree>Let's all take the report from the people with a _massive_) conflict of interest seriously.
<Jaffa_kree>nalaginrut, I guess I can, one Yuen Keong Ng
<nalaginrut>thank you very much!
<Jaffa_kree>Oh, he's in a different party now
<Jaffa_kree>A party for the elderly apparently
<Jaffa_kree> http://static-webregio.nl//content/images/medium/partijenuitzuidstellenzichvoorpartijvandeouderen_1.jpg check him being short and chubby
<Jaffa_kree>You never expect him to be a Kung Fu Master.
<Jaffa_kree>Like master
<Jaffa_kree>not just practicioner, nono, master
<Jaffa_kree>some of his students are even masters now.
<Jaffa_kree>He only once showed some stuff because everyone asked for it, all he did was jump three times his own hight, make a turn in the air and land on his feet again.
<nalaginrut>yeah, thanks for the info, I'll remember him
<nalaginrut>Jaffa_kree: does Linux occur in Amsterdam too ;-)
<nalaginrut>Jaffa_kree: does Linux crisis occur in Amsterdam too ;-)
<Jaffa_kree>nalaginrut, what crisis?
<Jaffa_kree>nalaginrut, also, I can't sleep.
<Jaffa_kree>This is most annoying.
<nalaginrut>well, you changed the name again?
<nalaginrut>don't worry about the sleep, here
<Jaffa_kree>Why not?
<Jaffa_kree>This can't be healthy.
<nalaginrut>I can say most of the guys here all have same sleep problem too...
<Jaffa_kree>mAybe this is why I am becoming progressively more stupid, lack of proper sleep.
<Jaffa_kree>It can't be healthy for them too.
<nalaginrut>well, yes, it should be healthy as possible
<nalaginrut>but sometimes, it's not controlled by ourselves
<nalaginrut>maybe you need to loose something in your mind, that'd be help
<Jaffa_kree>Nahh
<Jaffa_kree>It's a side effect of some drugs I used to take years ago.
<Jaffa_kree>I can essentially only sleep when I'm so tired that my eyes tear, I lose sharp vision and my stomach aches.
<nalaginrut>cigarettes? or worse?
<taylanub>dsmith-work: forgot to mention yesterday; at some point I had to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory where I installed bipt's guile, for the emacs build to continue successfully (would say libguile2.2 not found while executing the bootstrap-emacs executable). also I have to export it to run the installed emacs executable. my toolchain might have had something broken and not put the right info
<taylanub>into the ELF header or so
<Jaffa_kree>nalaginrut, no, medication actually.
<Jaffa_kree>pharmaceutical drugs, praescribed by a doctor.
<nalaginrut>oh
<Jaffa_kree>Of course, pretty much anything you can get on the black market under such names as cocaine and heroine basically exist more or less as something you can get with the right praescription as well.
<nalaginrut>I have sleep problems everyday, but I just lay down and wait to fall asleep. I think it's related to my lifestyle. But your case maybe different, I don't know if the drug affect your body.
<Jaffa_kree>It's a possible side effect that it deregulates your sleep rhythm yes.
<Jaffa_kree>There are some other complications like loss of motor dexterity.
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<civodul>Hello Guilers!
<sneek>Welcome back civodul, you have 1 message.
<sneek>civodul, ph4nt0mas says: hello, did you check any of the patches I sent about glibc/hurd or crossbase? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2014-07/msg00140.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2014-07/msg00273.html
<Jaffa_kree>civodul, where would you place pope Benedict XIV in the D&D alignment system.
<Jaffa_kree>Huh
<Jaffa_kree>Apparently the Borg are Lawful Evil
<Jaffa_kree>I don't get that
<Jaffa_kree>Surely the borg are completely chaotic and have no rules except "Do whatever is the most efficient"
<Jaffa_kree>I would say they are chaotic neutral.
<Jaffa_kree>I wouldn't even call them evil, they harbour no explicit ill will towards anyone, they are not more evil when assimilating than a human being is when he eats.
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<daviid>hello guilers
<janneke>hi!
<zacts>hi guile hackers
<daviid>off topic, what would be a good name for a gravity sensitive object [clutter related...] ?
<ijp>an apple
<daviid>that's a good idea
<ijp>attractable?
<dsmith-work>mass ?
<daviid>apple is fine
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