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<joejev>Can anyone help me with a segfualt in scm_call_2 *dsmith-work snickers: guile 1.8 ... <davexunit>wow, didn't know that wingo already wrote a wm in guile 6 years ago. <davexunit>now we have guile-wm, which is pretty awesome, but just one developer and the occasional patch that I throw over the fence. <davexunit>for guile-wm to be really awesome, I think we need to allow for clutter graphics and abstract away Xorg so that we can swap in a wayland backend when the time comes. <ijp>I just can't get worked up about window managers <davexunit>ijp: I mostly feel the same way, but guile-wm got me going. <davexunit>I'm a vanilla gnome 3 user most of the time. <davexunit>I tweaked guile-wm to work very similarly to emacs window management using the same bindings (different prefix key) <davexunit>I felt pretty efficient with it, but it's lacking a few things for me to use it full-time. <davexunit>no escape sequence. C-t is the default prefix key, so say goodbye to transpose-chars in emacs unless you change it. <davexunit>and a particularly annoying issue that I can't track down: eventually you will press some magic key sequence that breaks guile-wm to the point that it won't respond to other key input and you have to kill X. :( <dsmith-work>ijp: Yeah, window managers used to be the hotness. Now I just use awesome. <davexunit>I didn't like awesome because it was a lua mess. <daviid>civodul: davexunit if you both wish, i'm happy to continue the guile-2d install debug, let me know... this might help others in the end ... <dsmith-work>davexunit: Yeah, lua. Ugh. But I basically use it out-of-the-box, so that doesn't matter so much. <davexunit>daviid: sure. maybe we could take the bigger issues you're having to the guile-user list? <dsmith-work>Hmm. To many dav* in here. Must rememember to watch the tab completion... <daviid>davexunit: i'd rather solve it here <davexunit>daviid: I'm currently really busy at work (FSF mailing time is super busy) so I can't continue debugging with you now <davexunit>but some other time when I'm at home or something I can try <daviid>davexunit: sure, ping me any time. it was nice to have the help of civodul i really just offer my copy/paste/test help here :) <dsmith-work>ijp: So I have this vague idea that the problems with GOOPS, generic-funcitons, modules, and macros are related to the fundamental differences between CL and Scheme. Basically, GOOPS isn't quite Schemey enough?