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<pallagun>beginner question: I made a smob (just a pointer to double) that I allocated with malloc instead of the scm_gc_malloc. I have a bunch of existing code that uses malloc, so I wanted to test/figure it out. The example in the guile doc uses scm_gc_malloc. Is there an example somewhere that uses normal malloc?

<pallagun>also, if I made a smob and set up a scm_set_smob_free function, should that get called when I run ",gc" ?

<nalaginrut>morning guilers~

<pallagun>greetings

*nalaginrut just fixed heartbleed for his server

<b4283>nalaginrut: heartbeatd ?

<nalaginrut> http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/

<b4283>nalaginrut: wow, cool

<didi>It doesn't look like a good idea.

<zacts>lo

<b4283>nalaginrut: my old debian is vulnerable :(

<nalaginrut>sudo apt-get upgrade

<zacts>b4283: I thought that debian squeeze was not vulnerable to heartbleed

<zacts>(correct me if I'm wrong)

<nalaginrut>yes I think the older one should be fine

<b4283>yeah, doing that right now

<nalaginrut>but it depends on modversion of openssl

<b4283>dist-upgrade shows libssl is required for update

<zacts>I wonder how difficult it would be to implement the SSL/TLS protocol in guile scheme?

<nalaginrut>b4283: if yours is lower than 1.0.x, and it's fine

<nalaginrut>zacts: I think the problem is efficient

<zacts>efficiency?

<nalaginrut>IMO, a binding is enough

<zacts>I guess gnutls + guile works

<nalaginrut>zacts: yes, that's what I mean

<zacts>but it's just a curiosity, I do feel that more code should be implemented in languages other than C..

<zacts>C is starting to show its cruft with bugs like these, it seems.. but I'm still a newbie

<nalaginrut>I think it's possible, but not so fast

<nalaginrut>I mean the performance

<zacts>hm.. I don't mean for a library for servers and browsers, but for guile scheme applications

<zacts>like a guile server

<nalaginrut>I think the better solution is to use guile-gnutls

<zacts>but I guess we should probably stick with gnutls as it is more tested

<nalaginrut>if you need a secure guile server, you'd better based on guile-gnutls

*nalaginrut Artanis will do this someday...

<zacts>nalaginrut: what can I use now to serve a static blog such as, http://zacts-blog.herokuapp.com/ ?

<zacts>I want to use (scheme) instead of perl.

<nalaginrut>zacts: cool, is it static page?

<zacts>nalaginrut: yeah

<nalaginrut>you want to generate static page with Scheme?

<zacts>yeah

<nalaginrut>or a dynamic page

<zacts>nalaginrut: static

<nalaginrut>zacts: alright, you should try hyde of Chicken

<zacts>ok, cool

<nalaginrut>Artanis' main site is generated by hyde of Chicken

<nalaginrut> http://www.web-artanis.com/

<nalaginrut>the only problem is lacking of tutorial, only a manual

<nalaginrut>I learn it by myself

*nalaginrut is considering to post a tutorial on his blog

<nalaginrut>zacts: but you can read my code for it, it's easy to understand https://github.com/NalaGinrut/artanis/tree/gh-pages

<nalaginrut>zacts: BTW, you need Chicken-Scheme rather than Guile on this case

<zacts>ok

<nalaginrut>Anyway, it's better to have a porting for Guile

<didi>There is also <https://github.com/greghendershott/frog>.

<nalaginrut>ah~cool

<b4283>oh yeah, heartbleed fixed

<didi>b4283: Change your keys.

<didi>Revoke the certificates.

<b4283>didi: it's self-signed

<didi>b4283: Still.

<b4283>i guess i'll just have to change it

<nalaginrut>how to revoke the certificates?

<b4283>nalaginrut: you need to put it in the new certificate's revoke list

<nalaginrut>oh, my new server hasn't published the certificate

<nalaginrut>well, I think it's fine

<b4283>nalaginrut: how do you publish a cert ?

<nalaginrut>I mean this is my own server, so I didn't share the pub key to others

<nalaginrut>I wonder if it's the same thing we're talking about

*wingo checks out gdb from git so he can write a guile extension for it, whee

<nalaginrut>ooh

<stis>\\o/

<wingo>heya civodul

<civodul>Hello Guilers!

<taylanub>Hidy ho

<nalaginrut>what's the difference between pmatch and match?

<nalaginrut>pmatch/source

<nalaginrut>My actual question is, can I replace pmatch with match?

<taylanub>nalaginrut: Where/what is pmatch ?..

<nalaginrut>I mean in my own compile-tree-il

<nalaginrut>taylanub: I found it in (system base pmatch), and used in (language ecmascript compile-tree-il)

<nalaginrut>well, I guess pmatch is a simpler implementation of 'match'

<nalaginrut>but it's better to be confirmed

<wingo>is doug evans around?

*wingo can't remember his nick

<civodul>wingo: dje42

<wingo>ah cool

*wingo poking at gdb extensions

<civodul>neat, no? :-)

<wingo>very :) a couple of rough edges tho, like exposing the name "gsmob"

<wingo>was this already discussed, do you know?

<civodul>yes, during the review process

<civodul>i didn't really like insisting on SMOBs in the doc

<civodul>i thought most of it was gone, maybe no

<wingo>still some in there

<wingo>i also wonder why `object-property' is insufficient

<mario-goulart>wingo? https://github.com/BurntSushi/wingo

<wingo>yeah, i guess it's an obvious name for what it is :P

<mario-goulart>:-)

<taylanub>haha

<taylanub>That reminds me to try out the Guile-WM

<wingo>civodul: were you able to get gdb's test suite to run? fails for me for some reason

<wingo>civodul: speaking of which, hydra needs a kick to flush queued jobs or something

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<davexunit>taylanub: guile-wm is very neat. I go through phases of using it instead of gnome 3.

*wingo forgets how to send a patchset over email

<wingo>seems i was missing git-send-email

<Fulax>for file in *.patch; do mail <address>; done ? :)

<taylanub>I use ratpoison since a long time, and actually only ever use full-screen windows, the only actual functionality I make use of being a couple Xorg-global keybindings, and the little echo area it can show on the top right. Perhaps those things shouldn't be done by the WM anyway ...

<wingo>not exactly :)

<Fulax>I missed mail <address> <$file

<dsmith-w`>Howdy Guileers

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<dsmith-work>wingo: Got another master test case not happy. cse.test is looking for the (language tree-il cse) module.

<civodul>wingo: i was able to run the Guile part of GDB's test suite

<civodul>but when i switched to libgc 7.4, weird things started happening

<wingo>dsmith-work: ah, drat

<wingo>will fix

<dsmith-work>Cool

<taylanub>Hrm, with GNU MP 6.0.0, or something else related to my 2.0.11 build on OS X, #i1@-0 evals to 1.0+0.0i instead of 1.0-0.0i.

<taylanub>Makes numbers.test fail at the string->number test.

<taylanub>Wrote it in my e-mail about building 2.0.11 on OS X 10.9 / Xcode 5.1, I guess I should make a separate topic for it, don't think it's OS X-related.

<taylanub>Hehehe, GMP 6.0.0 release notes: "This release will not work reliably on FreeBSD 10.0 for i386 or amd64 using the 32-bit ABI. The reason is bugs in the compiler 'clang'." Not related to my issue since I built with GCC, but it's interesting to see more clang-related issues ...

<didi>civodul: Congratulations on the release.

<civodul>thanks!

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