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<taylanub>It's as if scm_procedure_p says --------- oh damn

<taylanub>I was testing it like a C boolean.

<taylanub>It returns the #f object, which is not 0 in C. :P

*ijp loads his troll and trolls taylanub.

<ijp><3 erc-shoot

<taylanub>Am I supposed to use scm_is_false or is there something more direct ?

<davexunit>to test for a false value in the C api?

<dsmith-work>taylanub: that's it

<davexunit>that's the function that I used.

<taylanub>(I actually meant is_true, but yeah.)

<taylanub>The Emacs API has more direct things, so it confused me.

<dsmith-work>Well, there is SOME function that turns Scheem bool to C bool.

<davexunit>scm_to_bool

<taylanub>I think scm_is_false will do that, essentially ?

<taylanub>errrrr

<taylanub>scm_is_true

<taylanub>What'd be the difference between using scm_is_true and scm_to_bool ?

<ijp>not quite

<ijp>scm_is_true will return 1 for say 'foo, but scm_to_bool will error

<taylanub>Ah I see, looks like it doesn't even accept #nil.

<dsmith-work>is scm_is_true basically (eq? x #t) insted of (not x)

<taylanub>No, is_true also covers #nil.

<ijp> -- C Function: int scm_is_true (SCM obj) Return `0' if OBJ is `#f', else return `1'.

<taylanub>So it's "the right way" to do it I guess.

<ijp>arguably it should handle #nil, but that value is best left unmentioned :)

<taylanub>It does handle nil ...

<taylanub>The doc must be wrong.

<taylanub>#define scm_is_false(x) (scm_is_false_or_nil (x))

<taylanub>(2.0.9.20)

<taylanub>Now my code to allow Scheme procedures in Elisp `apply', Elisp `funcall' and function-slots of Elisp symbols, should finally be reliable .. I think.

<taylanub>Argh, still segfault when I put it in the symbol function.

<dsmith-work>Ok

<taylanub>Hrm, I'm not calling dynwind_end before returning. -_-

<taylanub>Yey, works!

<taylanub>Someone tell me some fancy Scheme library which I can show off as being available from Elisp now. :P

<davexunit>srfi 42?

<ijp>taylanub: irregex

<ijp>oh wait, rx covers a lot of that

<turbofail>htmlprag?

<ijp>fmt

<taylanub>Hrm, "Scheme library" is the wrong term I guess, since what I can import into Elisp is limited to functions (including any new data types they bring).

<ijp>pfds, because, elisp is all about functional programming right?

<zacts>hi I'm using guile-2.0.9, and I'm trying to get the trace function to work

<zacts>I found this guide: http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs-1.6/guile-ref/Trace.html

<zacts>but when I do: (trace recursiveprocedurehere) it throws an error that the name trace is unbound.

<zacts>ah got it to work

<zacts>the syntax seems to have changed between guile-1.6 and guile-2.0.9

<zacts>,trace (recursiveprocedurehere x y)

<ijp>that's the docs for guile 1.6 you are reading

<ijp>to call it out of date doesn't do it justice

<zacts>yeah, I just realized that.

<ArneBab>operh

<taylanub>Oh god this sheep. https://images.4chan.org/a/src/1374860238036.gif

*ijp loads his IRC bot and flames taylanub.

***fangism is now known as fangism-hawngry

<taylanub>ijp: My Emacs can evaluate Scheme, your argument is invalid.

<ijp>man, that snowclone takes me back

<zacts>taylanub: edwin can evaluate scheme also

<ijp>I feel kind of like an old man hearing it, and I'm only 23

<taylanub>zacts: Edwin doesn't have Gnus and ERC tho

<taylanub>And, uh, users

<taylanub>Or does it ? Anyway jokes giggles

<zacts>:p

<taylanub>I'm tired, gotta sleep, flying to Turkey tomorrow

<taylanub>I now realize that we're in #guile not #emacs.

<taylanub>I thought I'm in #emacs all the way back since I posted that funny sheep gif.

<ijp>taylanub: the clue was that I shot, not fsbot

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<amirouche>what is the use of bracket like [] in guile ?

<amirouche>I see them in skribilo

<add^_>amirouche: just another version for ()

<amirouche>I'm wondering if there is a use of [] in guile

<amirouche>ah ok

<add^_>For "readablilty"

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