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<nalaginrut>morning guilers~

<civodul>Hello Guilers!

<ijp>yo

<taylanub>Mornin'

<janneke>heya

<wingo>moin

<nalaginrut>heya

<civodul>friends, Guile is a wonderful Scheme implementation

<wingo>what did you do? :)

<civodul>nothing

<civodul>i just happen to be struggling with another one :-)

<ijp>wingo: that was my thought as well :)

<wingo>civodul: heh, i see ;-)

<tupi>yes, i think so too, long live to guile!

<civodul>long live!

<civodul>ijp, wingo: i you don't realize that it's wonderful, i can give you a trick

<civodul>but trust me, it is!

<civodul>:-)

<ijp>guile万歳！

<DerGuteMoritz>the unattainable is unknown with guile!

<civodul>:-)

<DerGuteMoritz>civodul: what are you struggling with?

<civodul>well, macros and all that

<civodul></rant> :-)

<wingo>clearly you should load up psyntax into the impl you are working with, har har

<wingo>more seriously you might be able to wire in syntax-rules if it doesn't have it. obviously not as powerful though

<DerGuteMoritz>if it is about chicken I'm happy to advise

<DerGuteMoritz>if it is about chicken's lack of syntax-case, that is :-)

<civodul>wingo: it has syntax-rules, but like Guile 1.8 had it

<DerGuteMoritz>how did guile 1.8 have syntax-rules?

<wingo>using psyntax as a module

<wingo>it also took like 150ms to load

<wingo>that was turrible

<DerGuteMoritz>ah, that sounds painful!

<DerGuteMoritz>ok doesn't seem to be about chicken then heh

<wingo>i don't think so, no :)

<DerGuteMoritz>do you guys use syntax-case a lot?

<DerGuteMoritz>or do you have another low-levelish macro system in guile you prefer?

<wingo>i prefer syntax-rules when it's applicable

<wingo>and otherwise use syntax-case

<wingo>would be nice to steal racket's syntax-parse at some point

<wingo>stis did some work in that direction

<DerGuteMoritz>yeah I mean for cases where syntax-rules doesn't cut it

<DerGuteMoritz>I see, I see

<wingo>we actually still use the upstream psyntax representation for syntax objects -- tagged vectors (gulp!)

<wingo>they need to be serializable and we don't do serializable records...

<DerGuteMoritz>ah, dang :-)

*DerGuteMoritz checks out syntax-parse

<wingo>there's a phd thesis written on it iirc

*DerGuteMoritz is checking http://docs.racket-lang.org/syntax/Phases_and_Reusable_Syntax_Classes.html

<DerGuteMoritz>well, http://docs.racket-lang.org/syntax/stxparse-examples.html

<DerGuteMoritz>looks pretty wild!

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