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<integfred>Hi. I don't log into IRC much . A user sent me a memo saying they left messages regarding Java. User was mihi and this was on Oct 11 12:10:26 2025. Presumably it was regarding https://www.freelists.org/post/bootstrappable/A-few-projects-I-would-like-to-share
<integfred>User is not online at the moment and I can't find the messages about it in the archive
<integfred>Does anyone know? :/
<sh4>integfred, IRC has no built-in way to "leave messages", so maybe "mihi" thought IRC is like discord.
<sh4>people who care about what happens on IRC in their absence usually use a bouncer
<integfred>meh ... i chase it up. might be worthwhile maybe not
<sortie>2025 Oct 11 14:07:08 <mihi> snuik, later tell integfred: you have missed a t in boostrappable@freelists.org - the correct one is boo*t*strappable
<sortie>2025 Oct 11 14:08:17 <mihi> snuik, later tell integfred: About Free Software for desktop written in Java - there is barely anything left. Most UI apps moved to using Electron or similar. On the server, on the other hand, there is lots of Free Software used written in Java (e.g. Jenkins, Metabase, ...)
<sortie>2025 Oct 11 14:08:54 <mihi> snuik, later tell integfred: Kotlin is mostly only used for Android apps, yes (both free and proprietary), and that does not count as "desktop" either. :D
<sortie>^^^ I found it in my client logs
<integfred>lol
<integfred>and it was worth leaving me a memo for that har har
<sh4>maybe snuik is some IRC bot supposed to deliver messages on connect ?
<integfred>It got though as one of these https://libera.chat/guides/memo
<integfred>*through
<mwette>sneek: bootstrappable-software
<mwette>I remember there was someone who had generated an abstract machine for bootstrapping. Does that ring a bell. If so, and you have a ref, I'd like to see it.
<integfred>mwette, are you directing that q. at me?
<integfred>I wrote something for JVM recompilation essentially.
<integfred>A bit like https://hackaday.com/2024/05/21/static-recompilation-brings-new-life-to-n64-games/ but way less cool
<stikonas>sh4: either bouncer or matrix bridge or just look at the channel logs
<sh4>oh, wasn't aware this channel is logged
<mihi>janneke, do you know where snuik has gone? I believe it is somehow related to #guix?
<janneke>ACTION looks
<mihi>and yes, it is a bot that should relay messages whenever somebody rejoins and says something :)
<mihi>btw I don't blame snuik for not relaying a message 3 months later :)
<mihi>snuik, botnack
<snuik>*innocent puppy look*
<mihi>snuik, later tell sh4 just testing :)
<snuik>Sure thing.
<mihi>sh4: say something :)
<mihi>mwette, I think you mean https://github.com/ludocode/onramp
<mihi>integfred_, I think you got my messages now. Thanks for replying to my memo. (/msg Nickserv SET EMAILMEMOS ON helps to not miss them if you care)
<integfred_>yes thank you mihi
<mihi>sh4, integfred_: The link to the channel logs is is in the topic
<mihi>snuik, later tell integfred_ Just testing :)
<snuik>Will do.
<integfred_>.
<snuik>Welcome back integfred_ you have 1 message
<snuik>integfred_, mihi says: Just testing :)
<mihi>ok snuik works again. Thanks janneke
<snuik>Whatever
<janneke>snuik: botsnack
<snuik>ty!
<mihi>sh4, what is Discord? :D (I'm more the guy from https://xkcd.com/1782/ only that I don't spam channels with bouncers if they are logged or have a Matrix bridge :)
<mihi>omg I am unable to spell botsnack... :(
<janneke>well, snuik is kind of a dumb bot (watch it)
<snuik>Okay.
<janneke>snuik: snuik?
<snuik>snuik?
<janneke>snuik: is?
<snuik>is?
<mwette>mihi: I think it was onramp that I was thinking of
<mihi>snuik: /quit anyone?
<snuik>*innocent puppy look*
<mihi>ok, not *that* dumb :)
<mihi>snuik: abcdefg?
<snuik>abcdefg?
<janneke>snuik: mes?
<snuik>mes?
<janneke>dude
<janneke>snuik: source?
<snuik>source?
<janneke>snuik: release?
<snuik>release?
<janneke>snuik: what is mes?
<snuik>mes?
<integfred_>snuik: the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog?
<snuik>Heu...
<janneke>lost its memory, teh bot
<integfred_>snuik: horses eat hay, what about dogs?
<snuik>Whut?
<integfred_>snuik: dogs?
<snuik>dogs?
<integfred_>yes dogs.
<integfred_>what do dogs eat?
<integfred_>snuik: what do dogs eat?
<snuik>Whut?
<integfred_>snuik: dogs?
<snuik>dogs?
<integfred_>yes dogs.
<integfred_>snuik: what do dogs eat?
<snuik>If you say so...
<integfred_>well it's an interesting bot
<janneke>let's see if its memory can be refreshed
<integfred_>it's ram is still working
<janneke>snuik: mes?
<snuik>mes?
<janneke>snuik: what is mes?
<snuik>mes?
<janneke>sigh
<integfred_>i never see the bot work in the first place ... i know how it could work but that's not the same as how it did
<mwette>janneke: even w/ the tokenizer, I still need two chars for char-unread
<janneke>mwette: :)
<janneke>okay, good to know
<janneke>we'll see if tcc takes bootstrappable patches this time, or if we keep patching tcc, or add multi char unread tom mes
<janneke>a lovely set of options we have :)